v8 killer in a sv6

[Jimmy SV6]

hi there,

i am wanting to make a v8 killer out of a sv6, as this is my car that i have chosen and i know what you think already why not just get an V8 and yes in theory that is a good option and better starting point, but since i have been a kid i have always wanted an v8 killer out of a 6, the thing is i dont really care for an v8 that much, like fair enough the sound is amazing, but i have always wanted a v8 killer out of a 6, tbh i feel that an sv6 is a good starting point as it has 190kw as a stock engine and has great potenital.

i am willing to upgrade pretty much everything that is concerned when it comes to the engine, but as i have a lack of knowledge when it comes to cars, i would like it someone could point me in the right direction.

if its possible to like list mods that would help me get more kw's out of my car that would much appreciated.

[BRAWT_4TH]

well im no mechanic but if you put a better cam in and got pacemaker extractors it would sound better or be the same as a v8 also i guess if you work from the inside out changing some components in you sv6 now would be better then having stock factory parts and it should put out alot more power but i reckon you are at a good starting point you car will already be lighter than a v8 so theres no problems there i guess you just need to make it quick of the mark but making it sound better than an v8 would be cool just to put them to shame haha

[Fonzie]

Depends entirely how batshit-insane v8 killer you want to go... If you're willing to go the $$ and extra mile, twin turbo. Forged internals, etc. Not sure if there's a stoker kit for the alloytec yet?

[Jimmy SV6]

well im no mechanic but if you put a better cam in and got pacemaker extractors it would sound better or be the same as a v8 also i guess if you work from the inside out changing some components in you sv6 now would be better then having stock factory parts and it should put out alot more power but i reckon you are at a good starting point you car will already be lighter than a v8 so theres no problems there i guess you just need to make it quick of the mark but making it sound better than an v8 would be cool just to put them to shame haha

dude totally know what ya mean aye, i soo wanna put a v8 to shame, its just the fun of it knowing that i am 6 and just killing an v8 makes me grin so bad, hense that's why i wanna do it aye, hey if i can make my 6 sound like an 8 even better soo thats what i am wanting to do, i have a loan atm only small, but once i pay it out i am putting all the coin into my car... i just wanna make it a beast, so everyone would question me that it would be an 8 lol :P

[Jimmy SV6]

Depends entirely how batshit-insane v8 killer you want to go... If you're willing to go the $$ and extra mile, twin turbo. Forged internals, etc. Not sure if there's a stoker kit for the alloytec yet?

why how much cash would something like a twin turbo system cost if ya had to put a price on it ?? i soo have no idea when it comes to this stuff, but just wanna make a killer car thats for sure.

[torana355]

How much can you afford??? I ask this because to get decent "V8 killing" power out of the alloytech is an expensive path. It would be MUCH cheaper to get a Ecotech powered commodore and buy a turbo kit for it.

[f1tzy]

You could kill a 253 or 308/04 but your not gonna kill an LSx series v8 without a shit load of coin

[Cobez]

And you won't make a V6 sound like a V8.....unless you add another 2 cylinders.

If you want a V8 killer, cam, forced induction, forged internals, all the good bits. Won't be cheap by any means though. Would probably less than half the price to drop an 8 in it, do half the mods and be even faster.

[Jimmy SV6]

hmmm atm i have no limit, i just wanting to see what would be it potentail cost really... i am pretty easy i only have a lil debit of 5K sooo i dont really have to pay for too much else...

[redcv6]

first of all, you must understand, no matter how much you spend on this car, there is still going to be thousands of lsx motors that put you to shame. don't feel bad, its just what they do.

secondly buying a sv6 was not a good starting point, they are heavy and the alloytech hasn't had all that much development compared to the earlier commo engines, however in time im sure it will.

if you want to make a "v8 killer" you were better off to start with either a lighter car with a 6 in it or try something like a wrx or gtr skyline, something that can punch out mad numbers with a significant weight advantage. a vl turbo, although i don't particularly like the cars, would have also been another good starting point.

just remember it doesn't matter what your dyno figures. a quick car is the result of awesome torque, awesome power, and pushing as little weight as possible, with a driveline that can get the power to the floor quickly. biggest rookie mistake, focus solely on the engine and forget that the driveline is just as important.

hope this helps

[Cobez]

Well, a mate of mine put a single big turbo on his 6.2L VZ Senator, that was a fair way over the $10,000 mark to have it done RIGHT. Then if you wanna rip apart the block to stroke or do internals etc, who knows what it could cost. Depends who you get to do it, where you get what parts from etc.

Then you will have a quick V6, but nowhere near as quick as it would be if you did the same stuff to a V8. If you have no limit, buy a wrecked LS2, before you drop it in, do some internals (stroke and cam it even), throw a blower on it and Bob's you're uncle, one engine that will smash all highly modified Alloytech V6's

[Cobez]

first of all, you must understand, no matter how much you spend on this car, there is still going to be thousands of lsx motors that put you to shame. don't feel bad, its just what they do.

secondly buying a sv6 was not a good starting point, they are heavy and the alloytech hasn't had all that much development compared to the earlier commo engines, however in time im sure it will.

if you want to make a "v8 killer" you were better off to start with either a lighter car with a 6 in it or try something like a wrx or gtr skyline, something that can punch out mad numbers with a significant weight advantage. a vl turbo, although i don't particularly like the cars, would have also been another good starting point.

just remember it doesn't matter what your dyno figures. a quick car is the result of awesome torque, awesome power, and pushing as little weight as possible, with a driveline that can get the power to the floor quickly. biggest rookie mistake, focus solely on the engine and forget that the driveline is just as important.

hope this helps

Very good points!! Weight loss on a vehicle is one of the greatest advantages, along with torque. Hence the reason to buy an 8. Already has some pretty good torque, add forced induction, and you have well fit torque

[wikky]

well im no mechanic but if you put a better cam in and got pacemaker extractors it would sound better or be the same as a v8

Funniest thing I've read in a while. If you want a car to sound like a V8, it needs to be a V8. Unbolt your exhaust manifolds, that's about as close as you'll come.

Raw 666 SV6, I can see where you're coming from but you've going to need DEEP pockets to reach your goal. Also it's one thing to build a 'quick' car, but if this car's your daily you're going to want it to be reliable and streetable.
My best advice would be to ring a few reputable tuners and ask their advice on how to go about this. I'm pretty sure that they'll tell you not to waste your time or money though.
BUT, if you have to go down this path, I wish you all the best with the project mate.
Also you'd be looking at at least $10k for a stroker alone, if it's able to be done to the Alloytecs (I'm going off an LS1 figure).

[ryno_vrx]

And you won't make a V6 sound like a V8.....unless you add another 2 cylinders.
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agreed theres next to no chance making a 6 sound better then a 8, but this will get you moving Raptor Superchargers

[Cobez]

Very true also, also have to remember, if a copper hears your turbo's whistling, he will have a field day with you and a yellow sticker.

[Jimmy SV6]

Funniest thing I've read in a while. If you want a car to sound like a V8, it needs to be a V8. Unbolt your exhaust manifolds, that's about as close as you'll come.

Raw 666 SV6, I can see where you're coming from but you've going to need DEEP pockets to reach your goal. Also it's one thing to build a 'quick' car, but if this car's your daily you're going to want it to be reliable and streetable.
My best advice would be to ring a few reputable tuners and ask their advice on how to go about this. I'm pretty sure that they'll tell you not to waste your time or money though.
BUT, if you have to go down this path, I wish you all the best with the project mate.

yeah i aint stupid enought to think an 6 can sound like an 8, but they do sound hmm "somewhat" grumnbly umm yeah i figure you would be needing deeep pockets, currently it isnt my daily as i only get to drive it on the weekend as it is cheaper for me to use public transport, but still want a car to go for a drive and escape abit.

seeing your car mate is insane, no doubt i wont keep up to that, but thats ok, i just want something that is ballsy and can keep up with most 8's i guess, yeah fair enough an 8 is proper a better alternative, but at this point i want an 8 killer, hense why i created this post, but i wanting to get all the internals and everything done first, just wanna make sure i do it right i guess as well.

[Jimmy SV6]

Very true also, also have to remember, if a copper hears your turbo's whistling, he will have a field day with you and a yellow sticker.

tbh i even think they have made a turbo kit as of yet for the alloytec yet have they, unlessi am wrong ??

[impulsesv6]

FI... diff... clutch for a manual...

[Kal123]

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[06vzcalais]

You could kill a 253 or 308/04 but your not gonna kill an LSx series v8 without a shit load of coin

one phone call to C.A.P.A and as you said alott of coin

[06vzcalais]

Driveline replacement (big$$$$ whole diff assembly, try find someone to strengthen the 5 speed auto)
cam package (seen them for around 2500)
aftermarket intake manifold (cpr6 around 2-3g)
alloy big core radiator (upto 1g depends on where you go)
Full system exhaust (around 3g for pacemaker 2 1/4 to 2.5" system)
C.A.P.A T Trim supercharger(comes with fuel system and tune disc) good for 440Kw with some internal mods
proper dyno tune (around the 1g mark)
and thats just a start
but as they said it will never sound like a V8 no matter how hard you try
buy one of these is you wanna sound like a v8 lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9XAC-BvUyo

[Corbs1234]

Yeh the pro-flow turbo set up would be the way to go. the black ute they use has an auto trans that has been beefed up.
Looking at between $15-$18k after turbo setup, new ECU, and driveline upgrade.
Lots of $$. put a deposit on a house mate, lol much better than spending huge money on cars when ur young

[Jimmy SV6]

first of all, you must understand, no matter how much you spend on this car, there is still going to be thousands of lsx motors that put you to shame. don't feel bad, its just what they do.

secondly buying a sv6 was not a good starting point, they are heavy and the alloytech hasn't had all that much development compared to the earlier commo engines, however in time im sure it will.

if you want to make a "v8 killer" you were better off to start with either a lighter car with a 6 in it or try something like a wrx or gtr skyline, something that can punch out mad numbers with a significant weight advantage. a vl turbo, although i don't particularly like the cars, would have also been another good starting point.

just remember it doesn't matter what your dyno figures. a quick car is the result of awesome torque, awesome power, and pushing as little weight as possible, with a driveline that can get the power to the floor quickly. biggest rookie mistake, focus solely on the engine and forget that the driveline is just as important.

hope this helps

yeah does definately help, but i like the look of the sv6 yeah fair call i could just get a sv8, but that means more money to buy one as well, why not just put that money into a car that i like and that i own atm, it may cost abit of money to get done up, but i see it as a challenge and something i have been wanting to do since i was a kid, soo now i have a nice enough car why not.

[Jimmy SV6]

FI... diff... clutch for a manual...

got an auto, would it still be advisable to upgrade the clutch ???

[06vzcalais]

got an auto, would it still be advisable to upgrade the clutch ???

its an auto mate talk to an auto trans specialist. i already have done this they told me not to manny mods for the 5 speed a/s transmision
i emailed sure shift, you could also do the same they gave me the name of there supplier

just a small word of advice
do it right the first time, dont settle for anything other than the best you will only create a weak link, which you will regret later on when you have to fork out for the replacement part