VZ SS Ute "trap speed" on dash screen

[LRyder]

Hi Guys,

While driving I push both the up and down arrow at the same time and it brings up a screen showing "trap speed _ _" and when you press "set" it shows you the exact speed at which you press it. I previously had and SV6 sedan and I'm pretty sure it didn't have that.

Just interested in why there is this option, or if it does anything else.


Cheers.


Paul.

[LRyder]

Anyone? Bump

[Torquative]

its part of whats called "police mode" on VZ which is activated through tech 2.

In the VY you need to activate "Police mode' to give you the digital speedo readout, it also activates "trap speed" but you lose the speed alert feature (that beeps when you reach whatever speed you've set)

In the VZ you need to activate "Police mode" to get the trap speed feature, but you lose the radio display info on the left side of the screen (like CD1 - Track 1)

Trap speed was a pretend toy Holden threw in with the theory police will use it to follow you, press the button to lock in the speed, and show you later when they stop you (like they do on a radar).Only issue is that will never hold up in court, so its more a matter of "look what Holden could do" opposed to it being something useful.

I didn't think the ute's had this standard, I'm pretty sure someone with Tech 2 needs to activate it because police mode isn't activated on any car from factory, it needs to be done later (like at commissioning time of a cop car when its having its lights, sirens and sticker pack put on)

hope this helps

[LRyder]

Thanks mate that was a helpfull. Yeh my SS ute is an ex cop car, so would explain why. It was a thunder ute but had no hard top or leather seats either, was like a one off from factory as far as I know. But explains alot. Cheers !

[roy38]

no it wasnt

[Torquative]

if its an ex cop ute then that explains why its activated! It only takes 30 seconds with tech 2 to turn on and off.

SS ute isnt what you normally associate as being a cop car, but Ive seen weirder things like Peugeots

[LRyder]

if its an ex cop ute then that explains why its activated! It only takes 30 seconds with tech 2 to turn on and off.

SS ute isnt what you normally associate as being a cop car, but Ive seen weirder things like Peugeots

Yeh well as far as I know the previous owner had advised me that it was, and he purchased it at the end of its lease at auction. Holden have confirmed it was, as there were no log books when I purchased it and I wanted to make sure it had a service history.

[St_Gabriel]

So if I get a dash changed from police mode (914 pack), i no longer have the digital speed readout. Hmm maybe i wont get the dash cluster made normal, I really like the digital readout

[Torquative]

sorry didnt see this til now!

Your dash cluster in the VZ has the digital readout no matter what, it was only VY that had them switch off in "normal mode" and on in "police mode". If you go back to 'normal' mode it just means you'll get radio info in the left corner of the LCD screen, like TRK 3 (track 3 on CD) or FM2 104.9 (ie fm preset station 2 which is 104.9fm) although this is displayed on your radios LCD anyway, but you'll lose the trap speed feature.

So

VY Standard mode = NO digital speedo
VY Police mode = digital speedo, trap speed feature.

VZ Standard mode - digital speedo, radio info displayed in left corner of cluster LCD panel.
VZ Police mode = digital speedo, no radio info displayed in cluster LCD panel, Trap Speed feature.

[St_Gabriel]

cheers for that Torquative

[Robertr]

Hey, hopefully one of you may know the answer to a couple of my questions.

I was pulled up by a police car and given a fine by using the trap speed on the car and I am looking to dispute it.

We were going down a hill and the police car was closing the distance between the whole time until they pulled me over, and when I checked my speedo when they hit the lights I don't think I was at the speed they recorded or not speeding at all.

How does the trap speed work exactly, do you have to hold the button down for a certain amount of time or is it the moment you press a button that is the recorded speed on the dash?

The police told me they had to follow at the same speed for some amount of time to get a lock. If that is the case I most probably speeding and didn't know, but if it is recorded just by the press of a button they could have clocked it at their maximum speed catching up to me? I asked and they had no radar or film footage just the trap speed on the dash.

Hope you can help.

Cheers

Rob

[greenacc]

sounds bogus, what speed did they book you for ? I'd say you would have a good chance with your appeal if you were only speeding low range, as the proof ie trap speed display on their dash is now long gone and so their is no proof.

[Little Red VZ Go-Kart]

Police Mode is engaged. Take car to Techie and plug in Tech2. That will reveal Police Mode and the option to switch it off (revert to standard detailed display). Strictly speaking, Police Mode (Trapped Sped --) is not allowed to be engaged on cars used by general public but is common on all outfits coming from the Services (fire brigade, police, etc.). Cars are sometimes not checked as they pass through dealers when traded off.

Trap Speed is used with a rigged-in transponder that measures outbound and inbound vehicle speeds and thus gives the cue to the driver for a chase.

[Torquative]

Strictly speaking, Police Mode (Trapped Sped --) is not allowed to be engaged on cars used by general public but is common on all outfits coming from the Services (fire brigade, police, etc.). Cars are sometimes not checked as they pass through dealers when traded off.

Trap Speed is used with a rigged-in transponder that measures outbound and inbound vehicle speeds and thus gives the cue to the driver for a chase.

Huh? Where are you getting this from???

Trap speed is just another feature, its just a button that you can press so it locks on the current speed, why the hell couldn't it be allowed on "public" cars? By that theory, every VY that has the digital speedo activated shouldn't as its "police mode" and not allowed???

And what transponder? All the car does is locks on whatever reading the digital display has when you tap the set button, nothing else. A 3rd party radar unit on the other hand works a different way

I'm lost??

[Robertr]

Huh? Where are you getting this from???

Trap speed is just another feature, its just a button that you can press so it locks on the current speed, why the hell couldn't it be allowed on "public" cars? By that theory, every VY that has the digital speedo activated shouldn't as its "police mode" and not allowed???

And what transponder? All the car does is locks on whatever reading the digital display has when you tap the set button, nothing else. A 3rd party radar unit on the other hand works a different way

I'm lost??

So, the trap speed is the speed the, in my case, Police car was going when he pressed the button? How long do they have to press to record the speed or is it instantanious? And there is no connection to Trap Speed and any other speed recording device?

[Torquative]

I'm choosing to stay out of this one because I can see it going legal and I don't want to get involved.

Best of luck though

[Robertr]

I'm choosing to stay out of this one because I can see it going legal and I don't want to get involved.

Best of luck though

haha it's not like I would say in court "but torquative on just commodores forum said..."

lol i understand, its all good, thanks anyway.