HID Lights, What to get

[suga4oot]

Hello forum,
First, I'm very excited to say that i have been impulsed. For me thats a major upgrade from a 95 falcon GLi....I know right?

In a nutshell:
- Impulse blue 05 VZ sv6 (everything still stock)
- Got it with low profile tyres, but they must low quality coz they make alota noise. Sounds like 4x4.
- Price;....lets just say I got it for $4000 cheaper than anywhere else i looked, and this is from a car dealer.

Back to the point. i'm looking to upgrade the headlamps to HID's, but not sure what the different ratings mean e.g 5000k, 4000K. is it the lower the number the better???
and is there a prticular brand that's better than others or is it to do with the numbers?

thanks

[mrdunu]

the difference between the 5000k and 4000k headlights is purely colour. I recommend you go for the 6000k lights as it produces a nice clean light and doesn't attract the attention of any cops.

there are many HID conversion kits available, but I'd say the phillips HID kits are the best - theyre somewhat more expensive, but they will never die on you. i unfortunately made the mistake of ebaying a kit made in china, which died out after only six months of use

[mrdunu]

sorry, just to add, 6000k = clean WHITE light

[Ryan272]

yeah like mrdunu said.

the "k" stands for "kelvin" and the numbers represent colour temperature.
3000k is "warm white"
4000k = "cool white"
and 6000k is classed as "daylight".

curious about doing this myself, how much are the kits roughly?

[suga4oot]

wow just checked out the philips kit and you were right, they are pricey; around $499. So let me get this right, there are certain HID's that attract 5 0 attention? I thout they were all legal...???
And i was also under the impression that its just a matter of replacing the bulbs, does the kits use existing bulbs or something???

[mrdunu]

wow just checked out the philips kit and you were right, they are pricey; around $499. So let me get this right, there are certain HID's that attract 5 0 attention? I thout they were all legal...???
And i was also under the impression that its just a matter of replacing the bulbs, does the kits use existing bulbs or something???

if you see a car oncoming with blue lights, compared to a car with white 6000k lights (like the european cars), what do you think would attract more attention? technically, they are illegal, but you should be fine with the 6000k's. and its not just a matter of replacing the bulbs, the xenon bulbs require a balister for the temperature to be maintained, so its not just a simple unscrew the bulb and rescrew the new xenon bulb.

[suga4oot]

if you see a car oncoming with blue lights, compared to a car with white 6000k lights (like the european cars), what do you think would attract more attention? technically, they are illegal, but you should be fine with the 6000k's. and its not just a matter of replacing the bulbs, the xenon bulbs require a balister for the temperature to be maintained, so its not just a simple unscrew the bulb and rescrew the new xenon bulb.

True, didn't think of it that way. Well looks like i need to start saving up for that Philips conv kit. I'd rather go for quality than get disappointed a few months down the line. So where did you get yours installed mrdunu and how much does it cost?.......I just realised we may be in different states (I'm in WA), so let me rephrase that. Did u go to an Auto sparky/how did it cost you or was it a DIY?

[mrdunu]

True, didn't think of it that way. Well looks like i need to start saving up for that Philips conv kit. I'd rather go for quality than get disappointed a few months down the line. So where did you get yours installed mrdunu and how much does it cost?.......I just realised we may be in different states (I'm in WA), so let me rephrase that. Did u go to an Auto sparky/how did it cost you or was it a DIY?

i got an auto-electrician to get it installed. i got ripped off and paid $360 for installation (for low beams, high beams, fog lights and parkers), though if you ask around, i'm sure you can get it for around the $100-200 mark

[calais24/7]

Im getting a 8000k set, really really blue, type 6000k compared to 8000k and 6000k vs 8000k and i found some comparative pictures. Hope this helps and depending on the car i don't think they are THAT hard if you have a bit of no-how

[kcpwns]

are all hid conversions illegal??

[SICKTG]

as far as i know all hid conversions are illegal i just did mine i bought a philips kit from germany cost me $160 with free postage i installed it myself it was really easy pluged in 2 wires mounted the ballast drilled a hole in the back of the cap on my headlight i only did the low beam and the difference is huge i wouldnt even bother doing high beam unless you drive alot of highway at night.. i also bought white led parkers from jaycar and got some h3 led fog lights from ebay they were 10 bucks theres 28 leds in each definitly worth doing

[GAMBLR]

All HID retro fits are illegal in vehicles that don't have them from factory. They require a 'self levelling system', which adjusts the height when the car is loaded, so as not to blind oncoming traffic, and headlight washer jets to clean them and prevent light scatter. Most vehicles also have projector style lenses.

That said, you'd have to driving like a tool or have intense blue lights to be booked for them.

As mentioned, the K is Kelvin which is visible colour temperature. 3000K = halogen yellow-white, 4000K = warm white, 5000K = cool white, 6000K = daylight, 8000K = icy blue, and beyond that gets more blue and purple, which also reduces visibility.

[suga4oot]

as far as i know all hid conversions are illegal i just did mine i bought a philips kit from germany cost me $160 with free postage i installed it myself it was really easy pluged in 2 wires mounted the ballast drilled a hole in the back of the cap on my headlight i only did the low beam and the difference is huge i wouldnt even bother doing high beam unless you drive alot of highway at night.. i also bought white led parkers from jaycar and got some h3 led fog lights from ebay they were 10 bucks theres 28 leds in each definitly worth doing

Do you have the link of where you bought your phillips kit? I've looked around and I see them going for $499. And did you go for the 6000K HID's?
I'm also thinking of putting the LED strip just underneath the headlamps, might go for the 48.

[faBReGaS]

I have them in my VY. installed them myself, I only did the low beams and its more than enough.. MASSIVE difference. I have the 8000k HID kit and it isn't quite blue.. It's closer to white but has a blue tinge.. They look good and I have pointed them down so they don't blind people.. Had them for over a year now with no attention from the cops at all

[HoldenOnn]

Do you have the link of where you bought your phillips kit? I've looked around and I see them going for $499. And did you go for the 6000K HID's?
I'm also thinking of putting the LED strip just underneath the headlamps, might go for the 48.

Some sellers quote Phillips in their products. But most of the time it may only be a certain part that is Phillips like the globe only or wiring or ballast. A Phillips genuine kit will cost alot more than $160 I guarantee it!

Best bet is to deal with a HID dealer that sells decent quality products, at a reasonable price and also that has backup service and even a phone number that they can be contacted on. Also being in Australia is a plus also....no language barrier. Details below on where I got my HIDs and LEDs from. His name is Len and his service and products are brilliant.

I got 35w 6000K low beam and 55w 6000k high beam in my VZ Calais. I am in the process of changing into the 4300K low beam as I dislike the purple/blue tinge that I get on low beam through my projector lights. 6000K high beam suits me though. Each to their own in terms of colour temp (kelvin rating - k). I do know that 8000K HIDs would be very blue. If you have never experienced either 4300K or 6000K then 8000K may look white but they are quite blue in comparison. But definetely I would only stick with 4300 or 6000K.

Check this link also....Its very informative;

intellexual net · m k i v

Its all up to you as to what you get. Do a search as heaps of these threads already.

I got both my LEDs for under the headlights and my HIDs from Len at Ezihid below (LED link below also);

EZIHID Shop Leading quality HID Xenon headlight conversion kits, sizes H1, H3,H4,H7, H11,H13 9004,9005,9006,9007, Aftermarket headlights Sydney Western Australia, Queensland qld

LED head lights

[calay]

I had some 4300k hid's in my calais and they were good, except for the shape of the beam. It was very angled (up) at the left side (on both lights) so I couldn't have the main part of the beam in front of me at the height I wanted it. Anyone know why that would happen?

[HoldenOnn]

I had some 4300k hid's in my calais and they were good, except for the shape of the beam. It was very angled (up) at the left side (on both lights) so I couldn't have the main part of the beam in front of me at the height I wanted it. Anyone know why that would happen?

Yes. Its because retrofitting HIDs into where Halogens live is never going to be ideal. Halogens and HID have different optics and lighting factors. The ideal HID is from factory where the whole headlight lens/reflector is designed to match the HID optics and nature of light. Retrofitting will never give a perfect light output.

I suffer this issue too with my HID, but as I have LEDs under the headlight, I went with HID as it looked silly with an orange looking halogen and white LEDs. Otherwise, I would have stayed with Halogen on low and only got High Beam HID which I think are great.

Read this article. Its a very interesting read;

HID Kits: What You Need To Know

And just to use a quote from the last paragraph in the link attached as it couldn't be more true once you have read the article and thought about i. You will see that putting a globe with different light characteristics into a place where it wasn't designed will never work as well as original (called retrofitting).

This article will never go out of date, because the problems with HID kits are conceptual problems, not problems of implementation. Therefore, they cannot be overcome by additional research and development, any more than someone could develop a way for you to put on somebody else's eyeglasses and see correctly.

[SICKTG]

Do you have the link of where you bought your phillips kit? I've looked around and I see them going for $499. And did you go for the 6000K HID's?
I'm also thinking of putting the LED strip just underneath the headlamps, might go for the 48.

i have a mate who lives in germany i had them send over mate search on ebay? and yeah i went with 6000

[MagiTEK]

Some sellers quote Phillips in their products. But most of the time it may only be a certain part that is Phillips like the globe only or wiring or ballast. A Phillips genuine kit will cost alot more than $160 I guarantee it!

Best bet is to deal with a HID dealer that sells decent quality products, at a reasonable price and also that has backup service and even a phone number that they can be contacted on. Also being in Australia is a plus also....no language barrier. Details below on where I got my HIDs and LEDs from. His name is Len and his service and products are brilliant.

I got 35w 6000K low beam and 55w 6000k high beam in my VZ Calais. I am in the process of changing into the 4300K low beam as I dislike the purple/blue tinge that I get on low beam through my projector lights. 6000K high beam suits me though. Each to their own in terms of colour temp (kelvin rating - k). I do know that 8000K HIDs would be very blue. If you have never experienced either 4300K or 6000K then 8000K may look white but they are quite blue in comparison. But definetely I would only stick with 4300 or 6000K.

Check this link also....Its very informative;

intellexual net · m k i v

Its all up to you as to what you get. Do a search as heaps of these threads already.

I got both my LEDs for under the headlights and my HIDs from Len at Ezihid below (LED link below also);

EZIHID Shop Leading quality HID Xenon headlight conversion kits, sizes H1, H3,H4,H7, H11,H13 9004,9005,9006,9007, Aftermarket headlights Sydney Western Australia, Queensland qld

LED head lights

Wow. That intellexual.net article was a very good read. And now its got me thinking.. I have a VY and im wondering if its possible to retrofit the projector style optics from the HSV VY's into the standard lights. Actually. after a quick image search. It doesnt look right. Probably easier to get hsv headlights and just delete the circular hole out of the front bar.