Vcm vz pod cai
Wondering if anyone has installed one of the VCM VZ POD CAI to their LS1 VZ, and if so did you notice any gains etc. Is it a quality package, and how often do you have to clean it etc. Any info would be appreciated. I currently have a VY series 2 HSV airbox with Lukey highflow filter in there. So just wondering if you think it would be worth the upgrade.
Why would you starve the motor with a pod...? The panel filter works 40 times better then a pod in standard applications. If you want good results. Get a Ziggy OTR. Fantastic aluminum intake. Any decent LS1 owner should have one.
If I was going OTR i was looking at the duspeed one, but would rather stay legal and that would mean staying away from the OTR and mafless tune.
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i dont think the cops really care about otr and mafless tunes. as long as your not sideways around every corner, they wouldnt really pick on you
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2nd this... all experiences with Ziggy's OTR have been good.. i own a V6 but know several customer's and no complaints.. they look and perform tops...Originally Posted by VZ_commo91
Life starts at 200km/h
Then just do me a favor. Don't get a POD. Waste of money, you will loose power. Stick with a panel filter.
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Pods are only good for Rice Burner's that dont have enough room in the engine bay for anything else when modified..
Life starts at 200km/h
The pod is enclosed in a large box and apparently picks up 10-15kw and delivers lower IAT temps to improve power.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... No. It might get 3 KW extra if it was in a box with cold air. The only way to get power increase like that, would be if you had a V8 with an intake pipe of half an inch and change to a POD.
If I could get an extra 15 KW out of a POD, I would have one already. So would everyone else.
Its kinda like one of those vortech things that go in your intake pipe and ' spins ' the air, and is meant to give you 30 % more HP and up to 40 % better fuel economy. Its marketing to make you buy it.
Do you access to temp probes and dyno's at hand for free?
No, But I can tell you, I just put a Cold air on my VZ, I noticed that it dropped 10 deg off the intake. And I have not noticed any more power...
A pod will not give you more power. It will restrict it more than anything.
And it was "fully" enclosed sitting right up below bottom of headlight?
Have you reset the ECU and given time for it?
Are you saying that only stock LS engines only "go backwards"with a pod setup or all?
No I haven't reset my ECU. Mine is fully enclosed sucking only cold air.
I'm not to sure where you are going with this, But this is my personal opinion. And that is a POD filter will NOT give you any power gains. especially 10 - 15 KW of power. If you want a better flow, Stick with a decent Panel filter, Or get an OTR.
You know what Im eleuding to lol,I have had gains with pods on many different cars especially when enclosed.My L67 and BA XR6Turbo would def not benifet from a panel/otr CAI.
This is why I asked if you were referring to LS standard engines only as you sounded like you were slagging the pod setup across the board towards the end.
Dont take this personal at all,I just ask questions but sometimes to in depth for some and then they think im trying to do something to them,I dont beat around the bush so to speak and type all matey as I dont know half of ya's from a bar of soap,doesnt feel right lol.
In true Just Commys fashion if I had an agenda it would have started blatantly first post,Im merely asking a little more in depth questions than the norm I guess.
I see.... I haven't actually seen the POD in question, But the PODs I have seen, are generally small and restrict air flow alot more than a panel filter. Not to mention I haven't actually seen one with a ' proper ' Cold air set up. My experience with them tells me that they are a waste of time, money and power. I will go an reset my ECU shortly ( when it stops friggen raining ) and see if I notice a difference in power.
But I'm not saying a decent POD wont give you more power, I just find it hard to believe that it can give you 15kws.
Especially the ones you see in Autobarn. They might work on a small 4 cylinder, But something that requires alot of air flow to the engine, a POD in my eyes just does not flow enough.
I don't want to come across as an asshole that doesn't know anything. This is just my experience and opinion. I'm here to learn, PODs may of changed since I last seen them.
On another note... You asked this same question on LS1 forums in February...
Vcm vz cai [Archive] - Australian LS1 and Holden Forums
still deciding 10 months later ? or after something different ?
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How did you test the intake air temp?
With my standard airbox (monaro box actually, so has two holes. Not that it matters) I was gettting 65degree's IAT.
Scan gauge. I am getting 25 deg at the moment cause its cold outside.
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Yeah 25c when its just sitting around with the bonnet open :P
I can get that too, when you take it down the road with the bonnet closed its a different story though.
VCM-P CAI To Suit VZ V8 - VCM Performance
That is a look at the CAI. It is made by VCM Suite who are very proficient in LS1 tuning and parts, in fact one of the best with regards to all this.
I am still making my mind up. I certainly would love to go OTR the Duspeed one, but in the back of my mind lingers doubt only regarding insurance and defects. I know that chances of getting done if driving sensibly are next to none. I mean i have been driving for 18 years, and have not had the police check under my bonnet once.
This is driving at 110KPH. Driving at 60KPH brings it up to about 33 deg.
And yes bonnet is closed/on the car :P
Will get a couple of photos when I go pick the missus up from work just so you can see for your self... This is just from the simple 2 hole mod. But I have made the pipping on an angle on the second hole so its left of the Head light, while the other one is on the right of the headlight but fairly deep into it. ( if I'm explaining it right ) Then I have some foam sheets covering the lot from the engine, so it's only getting air from the from, not off the side of the engine.
Well, You will be fairly old then ( no offense. I'm only young. ) My brother has one on his Monaro, Had it 3 years. Never had a cop check under the bonnet.
I think they only do that with say Jap imports to make sure all the turbo/ BOV is all plumbed back properly.
As long as its not super loud, dropped on its nuts with 24" rims and an exhaust cannon big enough to fit tassie in it, I think you will be pretty right.
Last edited by VZ_commo91; 11-12-2010 at 12:37 PM.
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I've never heard of an OTR being a really issue either.
It would be interesting to see what the difference in IAT is with the air being pulled it from the front bar. A bit of pipe work and some hose claps, wouldn't be too hard. It should go down through the hole in the chasis rail near the airbox easy enough.
35 is old lol. The OTR problems are:
1. Filter is exposed - Not roadworthy in QLD.
2. Mafless tune - removal of MAF - illegal regarding emissions.
Lots of people do it and heaps for sale with roadworthies, and probably unlikely to get done for it. Insurance should be okay-but they will do anything if they can to get out of a claim, and this could be picked up by a smarter than average assessor.
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Insurance wont worry about it if it didn't have anything to do with the accident. Been there done that. Each company is different though.
I wouldn't say the filter is any more exposed then the panel in a box to be honest. If you get on the right angle you can see that just as well as in the OTR.
Soop, what type of intake do you have in your SS.
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