Quick intake question.

[AzTuati]

Im new to VZ ive only just got mine so im learning about it.

My mate is doing my intake custom and we were thinking of mounting the pod down between the engine and radiator, next to the fan.

This leads me to my question, yes i know it will take in hot air while idleing at a set of lights or whatever but as im driving say 60ks would it suck in a good amount of cold air being there?

if you have a cocky comment keep it to yourself im here to learn and hear what people think...

[impulsive]

I trualled a pod filter and found it did absolutely nothing performance wise, it increased fuel around town but was the same in the highway, if I was you, I wouldn't bother with a pod just stick with the stock airbox and k&n filter.

[impulsive]

You should do a search on the forums to see what other ppl have tried but a lt will say 2 hole mod and mcai.

[AzTuati]

growlers use pods dont they? we were doing something similar but different location. Thanks Impulse ill have a look around, i dont think ive ever heard of anyone trying this on a VZ before. In your opinion what do you think? would it take in much cold air or would it get all the heat from the engine?

[wikky]

The further away the pod is from the engine the better (if you have to use a pod). You haven't heard of anyone trying it because it's not a good location for an intake. As above, stick with the stock box and a K&N or do the 2 hole mod with a K&N.

[AzTuati]

hmm, ok thanks guys ill have a look at something else to do with it.

[soop]

LOL two hole mod is a joke. I cut the whole front out my original airbox. Guess what difference it made.... I could fit my hand in it. That's it.

[impulsive]

Pods are used when ppl can't fit the airbox in the car due to mods

[soop]

^^ Yip.

But sit back and wait for the fanboys to run to the pod rescue...

[impulsive]

Hahaha I heard that u can spray them with compressed air in a can which helps with compression

[soop]

HAhaha.
I reckon the same people that love pods love electric superchargers too...

[impulsive]

That's a great combo

[AzTuati]

great help yous were....

[soop]

We'll we were.

Don't waste your time cutting up your airbox.
Why do people always get sooky when they get told shit isn't easy?

[AzTuati]

sorry guys that was a cousin of mine, i left myself logged in :/

i dont care how hard it would be i just wanted some advice from people on what they think of mounting the intake down behind the fan, im going to try it out anyway and see what my results are, if im not happy with it ill try elsewhere. ill let you guys know how it turns out.

[soop]

It won't work very well I can assure you.

A: there is no space, it will foul either the fans or the belt.
B: Its very very hot right there, its probably the worst place to take the intake air from.

[AzTuati]

hmm :/ i see... ohwell ill see what else i can do, i want something more unique and effective than cutting a hole in a box....lol

[richardpalinkas]

if you want something thats custom and may work, try replacing the intake pipe to something like stainless, getting one made up myself. all that does is remove the ridges in the intake pipe and smoothes it out. if you really want to get creative, relocate the coolant overfill container, and cut a hole in the guard, and mount a pod down there. is away from engine bay heat, and combined with some cool stainless intake pipework made up, would look pretty sweet polished or black under the hood. you would probably notice more power with a setup similar than buying any cai, and may be cheaper.

[impulsive]

It isn't as effective as the standard arbor , this is what I've been telling you, they are only used because of lack of room, and yOu mention cold air, you are actually trying to get MORE cold air.. Which will flow exactly 'laminar'. Throwing a pod on the end of the maf will cause the air to be 'turbulent' and it won't flow right. This is my understaNding and what I've understood anyway, please correct me if I'm wrong.

Thus why ppl get mafless tunes correct? To get more air in which mafs cannot read, more 'turbulent
Air...

[soop]

Yeah you're fairly well on the ball with the whole pod issue.
Maf's are a restriction in the intake, you can tune the PCM to use the MAP sensor and the IAT to calculate the fuel needed without the MAF.
So, that's why they get rid of it. Justs makes shit easier.

[impulsive]

if you want something thats custom and may work, try replacing the intake pipe to something like stainless, getting one made up myself. all that does is remove the ridges in the intake pipe and smoothes it out. if you really want to get creative, relocate the coolant overfill container, and cut a hole in the guard, and mount a pod down there. is away from engine bay heat, and combined with some cool stainless intake pipework made up, would look pretty sweet polished or black under the hood. you would probably notice more power with a setup similar than buying any cai, and may be cheaper.

Act like it's your ideA rich, i Asked him to make me one years ago... Haha. And you won't notice any gains, it's purely cosmetic, I'm sure tuned however may make a noticeable effect

[impulsive]

Yeah you're fairly well on the ball with the whole pod issue.
Maf's are a restriction in the intake, you can tune the PCM to use the MAP sensor and the IAT to calculate the fuel needed without the MAF.
So, that's why they get rid of it. Justs makes shit easier.

The technical way of saying it... Thanks soop, I've found a use for you Ha ha.. I just dint know the correct name of the sensors and correct abbreviations

[richardpalinkas]

Act like it's your ideA rich, i Asked him to make me one years ago... Haha. And you won't notice any gains, it's purely cosmetic, I'm sure tuned however may make a noticeable effect

never said it was my idea dave. just a suggestion. and u never told me about the pod in the guard, that was my own thinking.

the only reason i would suggest a pod is to remove the restriction of the box, the extra length of pipe would be to correct turbulence created by the pod, as mace has already stated in another thread. until mafless tunes come out, if they ever do, i dont think altering the air intake would make huge gains. example, b added a pod on his tuned sv6 and achieved a 14.3 1/4 mile time. whether the pod had anything to do with it being that low of a time or not, no one will ever know.

[soop]

.3 of a second faster then the factory claimed time could come down to different conditions lol.

Pods don't make cars faster, they help if you've little room to work with. But you can acheive the same thing with a bigger panel filter and custom airbox if you have the room.

[impulsive]

WOw rich, I didn't realise you were soo sensitive.. :/ it was a Joke man lol... As 4 b's car... He didn't Add a pod he was running a pod when he ran 14.3