Big block Alloytec
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lol nice mate.
Originally Posted by Reaper
Im alright its the others
wow, how'd you do that?
Big block Alloytec
Go to the wreckers and get a cut cluster plug (VY or VZ).
Release one of the wire terminals. You will need to lengthen the wire so it reaches the BCM.
Rip out your cluster.
Connect new terminal to #3. This terminal is vacant.
Connect other end to BCM plug X4, terminal #22 (white/green). I used a scotchlok cause I'm lazy.
Works well. Although does light up when the BCM activates the interior lights (e.g. unlocking doors). Big deal!
All terminals mentioned are clearly marked on connectors.
Cluster connector pic below.
Why Holden decided not to wire the door ajar warning I don't know.
Last edited by heyitsEnricoPallazzo; 16-07-2011 at 01:19 PM.
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What exactly did you do????
[edit] Wait I see...
Last edited by 304runner; 15-07-2011 at 09:20 PM.
Nil Bastardo Carborundum
Four years I've been staring at that instrument panel and never realised that warning light symbol was there.
Good work.
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Im gonna go out and check now, looks like I have a task for next weekend
so just to confirm this works for the stock VZ SV6 cluster too? appears you have the 3 window cluster?
Big block Alloytec
Well if terminal pin 3 on the cluster plug is vacant and you have the door ajar warning fitted I see no reason why not.
From memory my exec cluster had the lamp fitted.
Last edited by heyitsEnricoPallazzo; 31-07-2011 at 07:44 PM.
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This is totally an awesome idea, I just checked and my WL Cluster has it too - definitely doing it next month when I get holidays!
-My VZ Acclaim- feat. ASR Audio Sound/Lighting and Various Other Mods
go in Luxury
alrighty ... SS cluster AND Executive cluster both have them, on the right, next to the battery warning!
Looks like I have some projects on my hands for the Acclaim and Adventra the next few weeks
This has got my interest up. I have done some investigation into sourcing new wire terminals for the cluster plug, rather than having to rely on getting a plug from a wrecker. Early days, but I'll see how it pans out.
QUOTE=bcw61;1928599]This has got my interest up. I have done some investigation into sourcing new wire terminals for the cluster plug, rather than having to rely on getting a plug from a wrecker. Early days, but I'll see how it pans out.[/QUOTE]
Apart from the friendly member that kindly furnished me with a couple of terminals (you know who you are - thanks again), just a quick update on my investigations.
I have found only one supplier so far, that has these terminals available for sale. The supplier is located O/S and the terminals themselves are as cheap as (especially with the $A at its current exchange rate). Unfortunately, the postage cost to get them out here is nothing short of horrendous, and therefore procuring some terminals is currently not worthwhile pursuing.
go in Luxury
Thanks Enrico, they arrived a couple of days ago ... just trying to brave the cold to go out and fit it to one car at least
Big block Alloytec
Lucky you don't live in Melbourne. Although today is nice and sunny. Might go to the wreckers...wait a minute...this isn't Facebook.
go in Luxury
Okay, so I followed the instructions and success. BUT Ive found what pins you really need to tap into!
Instead of tapping into X4 terminal 22, you need to tap into BOTH terminal 19 and 4 instead.
Why?
I found out, after some research, terminal 22 is "Dome Lamp Drive", which is why it comes on with unlock and stays on for 30 seconds, until the BCM flicks the dome lights off after the 30 second timeout period, or you switch the igniton to ON. It will illuminate any time the BCM is sending current to switch on the interior lights, obviously dependant on the switch in the roof console determines if they flick on or not. It freaked my girlfriend out because Ive told her anytime a warning light comes on and stays on, especially RED ones, turn it off and let me know. So she was freaked out at the fact a red warning light came on, and stayed on for half a minute, just by unlocking the car!
BUT, 19 is Drivers door ajar, 4 is Passengers Door (so the other 3) Ajar.
I didnt get this far, but terminal 6 is Boot switch, so thats my next task so it illuminates with the boot opened, in all honestly probably the only time this will come in useful on my car is if Ive accidentally hit the boot release on the key fob. FYI terminal 11 is the bonnet open/released, if you really wanted it to illuminate when the bonnets been popped open.
But plugged into 19 and 4, no matter whether the cars running and in drive, or youve got it unlocked with the keys inside the house and your opening the door to grab your "lost" phone from the cupholder, as long as the batteries connected whenever one of the doors are open it will illuminate, and when its shut it will turn off!
Hope this helps for anyone else doing this mod
Big block Alloytec
The problem I see connecting the wires the way you have is the BCM will now switch off the accessory relay when a passenger exits the car. Providing you have set the BCM up that way and the ignition is off.
Additionally, if the light sensor detects enough light the BCM will not illuminate the interior lights (no ajar icon). However opening the doors will, regardless of ambient light and provided they are switched to 'door'.
Problems with both approaches it appears.
It's not really a door ajar warning. It's more of a door open warning. Unlike Jap and other cars the door switches are poorly set.
go in Luxury
You've lost me? How does it do that??
If it helps, this is the info I was going by
Last edited by Torquative; 31-07-2011 at 09:04 PM.
Big block Alloytec
Yeah it took me awhile to understand what you were talking about too.
As you know you can programme the cluster to switch the accessories off by either the door or ignition switch. If door is selected it uses the driver door signal to switch off the radio (tuned to Stalker FM!), accessories etc. Now if you are joining the passenger and driver door ciruits together as you have done the BCM will then consider all doors as the drivers. Thus passenger (any) door opens radio turns off- boo. This is all pure theoretical speculation on my part designed to confuse the reader.
There could be other problems with joining the doors together. At the very least it's confusing the people reading this. Me included.
Where did you get the information above from? Looks confusing and interesting at the same time. My kinda info.
Don't do it again. Off to see consult my astrological star chart, which makes more sense....
Big block Alloytec
The bloody things works and scares women. What more could you want?
Not talking about the gentleman vegetables either!
go in Luxury
ah fair enough, makes perfect sense now!
So yes, as you suggested when I have the radio running in accessory mode (so pressing ON to turn it on, no key in the ignition) and the passenger door is opened it does in fact switch it off, which is no real biggie. I don't know what other accessories it'd affect.
whats confusing about it?There could be other problems with joining the doors together. At the very least it's confusing the people reading this. Me included.
Big block Alloytec
Power (ciggie lighter) socket would be another one. After market accessories fitted eg. phone.
Some additions above.
Very easy way around this, is to include two diodes (one in each lead going from the door ajar display to each terminal X4-19 and X4-4), with both diode anodes connected to the door ajar display. The diodes will act as a very simple 'OR' gate circuit, where either door switch will illuminate the door ajar display, but will have no affect on the other door switch circuit. These diodes could easily be included in the new door ajar display wiring loom. If I get a chance, I'll try to draw up and post a simple schematic to explain.
In case you are wondering, I doubt the voltage drop across these diodes (0.6V) would have much affect on the intensity of the door ajar display LEDs.
Last edited by bcw61; 31-07-2011 at 10:49 PM. Reason: additional info
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well, ive decided on the weekend I'll take the lazy mans way out of it.
I'll disconnect the connection at pin 19 and connect it to pin 6 (boot) instead, thus breaking the connection from drivers and passengers door and keeping the BCM accessories happy when one of the other doors are open.
That way the wire running up to the dash will only be recieving a feed from pins 4 and 6, and the light will only turn on with the passenger doors or the boot open. If I cant work out that my doors open without the assistance of a warning light, then theres some serious issues.
Big block Alloytec
Why not.
It will be interesting to see what the cluster says when the alarm is triggered by the boot. Not that anybody really needs to know. After all if the Booger Man has triggered the alarm and is hiding in the boot, He will most likely be rendered deaf by those massive subs and be gassed by the 3" exhaust. Not that I have any experience in the matter.
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