fuel gauge error, Service vehicle soon.
waste of time
Last edited by Don123; 14-09-2011 at 05:24 PM.
Never been pulled over!
I drive an 04 Berlina and my fuel gauge has been out for some time. This in turn has thrown out the distance to empty reading on the dash. I typically rely on the fuel used counter as it appears to be the most accurate, only being out by a couple of litres here or there. However I have never received a message telling me that I have a fuel gauge error, so you may be in a different boat to me on this one.
As for the service vehicle soon message, I have had my car flip out at me once or twice when i've tried to start it and it's thrown me that message but they have been one-off occurences quite spaced out from one another, with no ensuing problem apparent.
Hope that helps
Tim
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these phantom messages might be signs that the computer is on the way out. The exact same thing happened to a friend: new 'puter cost $1,100.
I actually had this exact problem about 4 days ago and it never went away, so it stopped me from being able to start the car.
Auto Electrician wouldn't do anything, took to Holden, 30 minutes of having it they called me stating the ECU was completely stuffed, $1050 thanks.
waste of time
Last edited by Don123; 14-09-2011 at 05:25 PM.
I hope for your sake this problem is gone.
Mine started as once offs, this error would popup but would disappear for 1 or 2 days then return.. within 4 days it progressed from once offs to the point the car wouldnt start and the ECU was stuffed and got replaced at $1050.
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Had a car with this exact issue on Friday, couldnt communicate with the ECU using the scan tool so started checking all the wiring, undid the connectors to the ECU etc and when I put it back together it stopped faulting. Could be something as simple as a bad connection at the ECU and unplugging then replugging the connectors cleans the terminals up and fixes it.
Worth a try if you have this issue otherwise it could well need an ECU.
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waste of time
Last edited by Don123; 14-09-2011 at 05:25 PM.
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ECUs arent cheap and it takes time to diagnose electrical faults which also costs money in labour. But hey we could work for free and lose money by selling you parts cheaper than what they cost us right? At least youd be happy then!Originally Posted by Don123
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waste of time
Last edited by Don123; 14-09-2011 at 05:25 PM.
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The only thing thats simple here is your thought process. A scan tool gives you a trouble code, for example IPC can bus no comms with ECU. It doesnt tell you why theres no comms or how to fix it. So you have to test the ECU for power and earth, check all the wiring, check connectors for corroded or backed out pins and so on. If it could tell you the problem it would, dont you think Holden wants problems solved as quickly as possible considering it has to reimburse dealers for time spent on warranty issues? Dont you think the dealer would want to fix the problem as quickly as possible to be able to book in as many other jobs as possible?
But lets not allow facts to ruin your little fairytale now hey?
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Fair call RiCeY.
The more advanced you get with vehicle technology, the more issues that are likely to arise, whether it be connectivity, sensors, etc.
Comparing the ECU in a 19yr old vehicle with a current day vehicle is like chalk & cheese. The computer even in an old Commie is more powerful than what they used to get man walking on the moon.
If people just want the dealer to throw new parts at every problem rather than to identify the fault so it doesn't reoccur - then everyone's repair bills will go through the roof.
more waste of time
Last edited by Don123; 14-09-2011 at 05:26 PM.
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A computer cant tell you where a short in wiring is, only that there is one. Because a 30 year old car doesnt have computer networks built into the car consisting of low medium and high speed can bus networks, kilometers of wiring all hidden away under trim, seats and panels, dozens of modules controlling all different parts of the car and communicating with each other. Spark plugs dont take 2 hours either, it requires removal of the intake manifold on the V6 which is probably an extra 15 minutes. DTCs take 5 minutes to retrieve from the vehicle, some are simple to diagnose, some are time consuming. And your comment of taking my time to make more money is retarded, I earn the same amount of money no matter how long diagnostic jobs take.
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and more waste
Last edited by Don123; 14-09-2011 at 05:26 PM.
FYI, DTC stands for Diagnostic Trouble Codes.
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My cars 6 years old and i havent had to replace any electrical components apart from an oil pressure sensor so Im not sure where you get every 4 years from? ECU is located on the front of the engine drivers side.
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Last edited by Don123; 14-09-2011 at 05:27 PM.
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Why are you looking at the left of the engine when the ECU is on the front of the engine?
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Last edited by Don123; 14-09-2011 at 05:27 PM.
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FRONT of the engine, FRONT means front.
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Last edited by Don123; 14-09-2011 at 05:27 PM.
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Hey Don. Take it down to the Holden dealer and they'll probably point out where the ECU is for free!
RiCeY and the other guys on this forum give their advice for 'free' to help people like us - so don't brow beat them. The advice often does go toward minimising costs for those who can take up the tools and do a bit of DIY.
Some issues aren't DIY and for those we just have to suck it up and pay.
Don't mean to offend but just throwing a bit of a reality check in here.
Sorry mate, I had a 19 y-o Commodore as well, the ECU went after 3 years, cost $600 to replace. Granted $600 is less than $1050... oh wait, back in 1995 no it wasn't. Listen I know when you get an expensive repair bill, you get frustrated and want to vent some steam, but don't talk thru your arse.
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