vz commodore, lemon???
from the content of this section of the forum a bloke could cme to the conclusion that the vz commy is a hopeless dud,underpowered,poor electrics,inferior engine parts,piss poor rip off service from holden with overpriced parts, what do you guys think????
what we have here,is a failure too communicate!!
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Obvious troll, but I will answer it seriously.
No one posts about their car if its going well,
"Help! My car is running well no problems at all. What can I do to break it?"
That will be the main reason you will see most topics regarding problems. I find that my VZ Crewman is far from a lemon, infact even after a pretty bad crash which required basically the entire front end replaced it still drives very well.
The only thing I can say I dont like about my car is its turning circle and the fact that no matter how much I try to 'think skinny' I cant fit into the small car parks.
My rides
VZ Crewman S Pack 6 speed
HJ/HQ One Tonner with a worked 253 and 3speed auto
go in Luxury
Ive seen hand build Aston Martins with more problems then my VZ Commodore before theyve even had a chance to have the pre delivery mode switched off, so no ... I wouldnt agree with that statement.
no troll pinhead, i own an 06 vz and i'm worried about fture cam chain and computer problems, parts are overpriced and there is an obvious reliability issue!!!Originally Posted by azazeldeath
what we have here,is a failure too communicate!!
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No need for name calling. Either way I did answer the question seriously and honestly from my perspective.
My rides
VZ Crewman S Pack 6 speed
HJ/HQ One Tonner with a worked 253 and 3speed auto
mate you should have looked into the cars common problems before you bought it, if you wanted a troublefree car with cheap parts then you should have bought a toyota land cruiser (but they have there problems as well), all cars have there problems and the only way to deal with it is fix it when such a problem arises, just because a few people have some problems in their car it doesn't mean that the entire range of VZ commodores ever built will break down.
Carpark Mechanic.....
Hand built is just another way to say "the door will fall off"
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Mates XR8 Persuit ute has a hand built Tickford motor in it, because its so wonderfully done they welded a water pump bolt on there instead of just tightening it like every normally person in the world would. And before you ask, he had it from new and it was welded on from the day he got it, he never cared about it until it decided to die on him late last week lol.Hand built is just another way to say "the door will fall off"
So handbuilt isnt always better.
My rides
VZ Crewman S Pack 6 speed
HJ/HQ One Tonner with a worked 253 and 3speed auto
Pedro
I love my VZ, it's been great. It's not perfect, it has had a couple of things break, but what I love about Commodores is how cheap they are to fix. If you think Commodore parts are expensive, go ask how much the equivalent part is for a Jap, Korean, Euro or Yank car is (and how long you will have to wait for it to arrive in Australia). Also no matter where you go in Oz, you are bound to be able to find lots of spare parts for your Commodore. If you are going to buy anything as complex as a modern motor car then you have to accept that one day parts will fail, wear or break down.
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Underpowered - probably a V6 175 with a 4 speed auto
Poor electrics - povo pack without power windows
Inferior engine parts - where's mah 'straktaz?
Piss poor rip off service from Holden - well fuggin' no shit!
Overpriced parts - if purchased from Holden, WTF do you expect?
See? It's your imagination... It's on par with pretty much every othe4r Australian built car (which is average at best).
F O R U M W A R R I O R
Had my 05 VZ SV8 since new and had to:
Replace water pump once
Rebuild diff once
Replace oil pressure sensor
The cars done 170,000km and currently has no issues at all.
Why would you buy a V6 then complain about power?
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I have a laugh when I hear people shit-can the standard of Australian built cars.
You think the Euro's are better for example? Not from my experience with a brand new Mark V Golf purchased in February 2005. The day it was bought, we found the rear right hand door could not be opened from inside and the same door's power window wouldn't operate. (Needed a new switch)
On day 2, my wife noticed a pronounced knocking sound when the clutch was depressed. It took over two years before the local VW dealer finally recognised the noise, but of course, it was "normal Golf operation" so it stayed till the day I pissed the thing off.
Over the thirty three months I owned it, in addition to the power window switch, it needed a new cruise control switch, two brake light switches (one failed overnight, locking the lights on, and flattening the battery whilst the car was parked in the garage and we didn't find out till next morning). a new passenger's door trim and new trim around the hatch window. It developed a crunch when changing back to first gear at low speed and had to be double shuffled every time. No big deal as I can double shuffle fine, but in a new car? Nup - not good enough, and also never fixed, despite being reported. Servicing costs were horrendous and as the car was under warranty, I had no choice but to have it serviced by VW as it was too new at the time, and required special tools even to replace the oil filter, so local mechanics preferred not to touch it.
Whilst still in factory warranty, I traded the Golf on my present 2003 Series 2 Berlina, which had 32k on the clock and was just four years old. I have driven 130k since then and the only parts to have failed were the air-con amplifier ($80) and the shocks have all been replaced around 100k. I'll probably jinx myself saying this, but this car has been the model of reliability.
Now, I realise the OP was in relation to VZ's and my car is a VY, without the early Alloytec problems, but don't ever try to tell me that Australian cars are poorly built or expensive to repair. They're not perfect, but they're a damned sight better than many people give them credit for.
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If they did easy answer....
Buy a ford
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Hahahaha. You have an ex-cop pov pac vz? That's answers all your questions.
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You know as a mechanic i see and work on a lot of holdens in our workshop but do you want to know why? Mainly because have of australians have bought holdens. Personally i love holdens but yeah i will admit they have their problems like every other car. I've had my 2004 VZ Calais V6 for a while now, i've put 30,000 k's on it in the last year and it hasn't missed a beat. The only time something went wrong on it was when i managed to short circuit the ABS unit when i was doing some research on piggy backing around the traction control feature. If you want a decent family car that will get you from a to b everyday of the week most of us will go out and buy a holden or dare i say it a ford. Just my 2 cents worth
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I love it when you talk tuff!!
what we have here,is a failure too communicate!!
If its underpowered, why buy it after the test drive?
If it had poor electrics, why not buy a higher end model?
If your not happy with holdens price of parts and servicing, why not take it elsewhere? Or here's an idea, pick up a spanner and do it yourself
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Mate, obviously the older the VZ gets, the cheaper parts will get. It's only been 4 years since production stopped. Maybe you should have bought a VN?
read my post, from the content of this forum, i'm not saying this about my car it's what iv'e been reading that my comments are on, iv'e had no trouble with my commy and i'm more than happy with it, once again i say read my post properly.
what we have here,is a failure too communicate!!
Bends spacetime
So what the f*ck is the point of this thread then?
Also, Holden parts are far cheaper than Jap/Euro parts AFAIK...
the point is some of you guys must have shitbox vz's
what we have here,is a failure too communicate!!
Almost not here!
The VZ Executive is a great basic Australian family car - roomy, great brakes and plenty of open road power.
However the VZ Pove pack is not the following:
A Drag car - fly by wire style not cool for drag racing (unluke the mighty VN)
A racetrack car - floats like a boat when you have 50,000+kms on the stock shocks.
A limo - pove pack is just that vinal and rubber floor mats
A BMW to service - dont need $2,500 for an oil change with space age oil technology
No the VZ Executive is just a work horse for the avg Aussie family.
And my 05 VZ is white - not lemon....
White 05 V6 VZ Executive - Thrashed Ex Telstra car
and 3 Dangerous non ABS VN's
Bends spacetime
So...you made this thread to point out that other people have had problems with their VZ's, even thought you haven't?
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