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    Hello all,

    I am new to the forum and new to Holdens. I own a stock 2005 Holden Commodore SV6 S/Auto. I have seen so many mods and such about improving performance and it has all become pretty confusing. I would like to know how to improve performance (no super or turbo chargers) and fuel economy.

    I have heard that a lot of the stuff from the SS model improves the performance but I am not sure.

    Thanks for you help.
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    None of the mods for the V6 are worth the money they cost for the power gained.

    The alloytec doesnt have much hidden power in it.
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    plenty of threads regarding V6 performance do a search and be enlightened!

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    Good start buy mace intake gear pacemakers extractors and your choice of cat back exhaust
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    I'd take you mate lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiCeY View Post
    None of the mods for the V6 are worth the money they cost for the power gained.

    The alloytec doesnt have much hidden power in it.
    what rock do you live under?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca87 View Post
    I'd take you mate lol
    Your car does 12s?
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    Quote Originally Posted by impulsive View Post
    what rock do you live under?
    The rock of reality.

    If you want a performance commodore you dont buy a V6. Its common logic.
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    Probably with ease havent tried
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca87 View Post
    Probably with ease havent tried
    Oh yeah what mods have you done to "do 12s with ease"
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiCeY View Post
    The rock of reality.

    If you want a performance vehicle you dont buy a commodore, especially a V6 one. Its common logic.
    should have gone something like that really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiCeY View Post
    The rock of reality.

    If you want a performance commodore you dont buy a V6. Its common logic.
    LS motors are nice and sound tough, but at the end of the day, its just a commodore isnt it. Sure they are quicker than V6 Alloytecs, and if you can afford the loan for a cam, tune and OTR they hit 12s easily. If i max out my credit card and get a loan, id get the alloytec moving along nicely too. However i choose not waste the money.

    In saying that, i agree that expecting big power for little $$ is a myth with a little V6, but just because he doesnt drive a V8, doesnt make it fun...
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    Quote Originally Posted by impulsive View Post
    LS motors are nice and sound tough, but at the end of the day, its just a commodore isnt it. Sure they are quicker than V6 Alloytecs, and if you can afford the loan for a cam, tune and OTR they hit 12s easily. If i max out my credit card and get a loan, id get the alloytec moving along nicely too. However i choose not waste the money.

    In saying that, i agree that expecting big power for little $$ is a myth with a little V6, but just because he doesnt drive a V8, doesnt make it fun...
    My point is that modifying V6s for power isnt as cost effective as just buying a V8 in the first place. None of the V6 power mods are worth the money they cost when the money spent could have gotten you a V8 which makes the same power standard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by one_and_only2004 View Post
    should have gone something like that really.
    Not when we are on a Commodore enthusiast website.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiCeY View Post
    My point is that modifying V6s for power isnt as cost effective as just buying a V8 in the first place. None of the V6 power mods are worth the money they cost when the money spent could have gotten you a V8 which makes the same power standard.
    I agree that modifying a v8 is a far better investment than a V6, however..

    my point being that not everyone wants a V8, They cost more in the beginning, they cost more in insurance, fuel, on road costs and the rest... Everyone knows that a V6 is cheaper to run and own than any v8 let alone any v8 or a lumpy cammed V8. In saying that, what is really more cost effective long run? Peformance modified V6 may still be slower than a V8, but compared a V8 a lot cheaper to own, operate and modify.

    If i had very deep pockets, or a daddy to back me like most of these school aged, children hooning aorund in v8s i too would own a V8. Fact of the matter, i could prob afford to run a car quicker then a lot of the v8s on here, but i choose not too.

    So enough, v8 is cheaper BS. Some of us choose not to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by impulsive View Post
    I agree that modifying a v8 is a far better investment than a V6, however..

    my point being that not everyone wants a V8, They cost more in the beginning, they cost more in insurance, fuel, on road costs and the rest... Everyone knows that a V6 is cheaper to run and own than any v8 let alone any v8 or a lumpy cammed V8. In saying that, what is really more cost effective long run? Peformance modified V6 may still be slower than a V8, but compared a V8 a lot cheaper to own, operate and modify.

    If i had very deep pockets, or a daddy to back me like most of these school aged, children hooning aorund in v8s i too would own a V8. Fact of the matter, i could prob afford to run a car quicker then a lot of the v8s on here, but i choose not too.

    So enough, v8 is cheaper BS. Some of us choose not to.
    You modify a V6 to perform like a V8 and it will be less reliable, less economical and cost more on insurance if you declare your mods (this is if they will even insure it).

    If you dont want a V8 thats fine, but dont expect V8 performance without spending a lot of cash and then having an unreliable car.

    And when it comes to performance increases, yes its cheaper to do it to a V8. A simple MAF tune gained me around 50rwhp. What would it cost to get 50rwhp from an alloytec?
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    lol, dont misunderstand what i'm saying... I completely agree with what you are saying! In my defence i never modified my car to peform like a v8, Just a faster alloytec. I guess more so what i am getting at is im sure he understands its cheaper etc to buy a V8 im sure if he wanted to he would. The old V8 thing is a bit tiring to me these days
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    Quote Originally Posted by impulsive View Post
    what rock do you live under?
    Somebody stole it already but I'd call the rock of reality.

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    I have nothing against V6s, Im just trying to save people money that dont realise its easy to spend a lot on the alloytec and not get huge gains unless you go forced induction. (which probably ends up more expensive than upgrading to a v8)
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    Quote Originally Posted by impulsive View Post
    I agree that modifying a v8 is a far better investment than a V6, however..

    my point being that not everyone wants a V8, They cost more in the beginning, they cost more in insurance, fuel, on road costs and the rest... Everyone knows that a V6 is cheaper to run and own than any v8 let alone any v8 or a lumpy cammed V8. In saying that, what is really more cost effective long run? Peformance modified V6 may still be slower than a V8, but compared a V8 a lot cheaper to own, operate and modify.

    If i had very deep pockets, or a daddy to back me like most of these school aged, children hooning aorund in v8s i too would own a V8. Fact of the matter, i could prob afford to run a car quicker then a lot of the v8s on here, but i choose not too.

    So enough, v8 is cheaper BS. Some of us choose not to.
    A 6 Litre Commodore should use the same or less fuel than the Ecotec. I know mine does.

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    Dunno what the alloytecs average but I get better fuel economy than the Mrs' Mitsubishi 380...
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