What's the estimated safe range of Klms on the odom?
When I bought my first car, a couple of things that were definite deal breakers were if the car was over 10 years old or over 140 000kms.
Now I'm looking for a VZ Commodore. I KNOW there are a lot of other factors that contribute how reliable the engine will be before needing things replaced or fixed.. but what's everyones opinion on a safe or good amount of klms to make sure a VY or VZ commodore has on it. (Like I said I know there are a lot of variables to take into account.. like how the car has been driven, regular services, how well it's been maintained, garaged etc EVEN LUCK..) But I myself would like to stick to around 100 000 kms or under give or take a few. say above 120 000 klms would be a deal breaker for me despite how good the car looked.
Anyone else ? I don't want to buy a $12 000 car, and then at first service, have to replace brakes, callipers, hoses, belts, alternators, harmonic balancers etc. I want something that's going to be reliable for at least a year (by reliable I mean doesn't BREAK DOWN, I know a car has to be maintained and have money spent on it to keep it in good nick.
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Depends really, my old VY started squeaking and groaning at about 85,000kms. It all depends who you're buying it from I guess, old people don't drive cars as hard as youngin's.
Depends where its from, country cars get the easy life- no constant stopping, less stop and start driving, more Highway k's ect = less stress on the brakes, engine and trans, diff and some suspension components.
My VKs are from completely different environments, one was my grandmothers which lived on a country farm since new, the other was a Melbourne car that lived with a another Grandma since new.
The Melbourne one had 80 000ks but had far more worn brakes, seats and pedals ect, whereas my grandmas one had original pads and discs and looks to have never been sat in with 122, 000km.
Its all to do with the environment the car is in and how the owner treats it. IMO a country car with 150 000 km would be a better by then a city car with 120 000km generally speaking.
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id rather buy a car with a lot of km on it from highway driving than one that is stuck in traffic, or even one that is hardly driven. ie. a grandmas car that is only driven to the shops and back. not having the car run at optimal temp causes excessive wear, so be weary of that
My 2002 vu ute has 297k and still runs great.
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you could have 2 cars same model/year. one thats been pampered with 200,000ks and one thats been totally thrashed 100,000. id go the one with 200,000k's (exaggeration kms)
I even SAID I know there's a lot of things to take into consideration and a lot of variables. And was trying to ask... without knowing the history of a car what do you think a good limit of Klms would be to stick under. So like i said I KNOW a car with a lot more k's could have been treated a lot better,.. but without knowing that what would any of you say you would try and keep the k's under when buying a second hand car you don't know much about. I think 100k's is about good
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Biggest issue on KMS for the VZ is oil changes. Miss 3 in a row and the engine oil will be sludge. 120k and very old oil = dead motor in no time.
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like you SAID, there are alot of variables! anything under 100k can be considered good aslong as you can get some info on the car! just the same as a car with double the k's could be good as long as you get as much info as you can. if its private try and judge the type of people that you are buying it from. if dealer try and find out the previous owners info (fleet, hire or private)
the amount of k's at the end of the day meen sweet FA. but if it means that much then when i was looking for my car last year i had a 125,000k limit. picked the calais up with 94,000.
Picked up my SV6 VZ for $15,000 with 118,000km's and got a service done at 119,500 kms and found that the throttle body needed a service and the brakes. yet it all felt fine when i was driving it. my range was anything that had done around 20,000km - 25,000km a year on average. unless your a mechanic (im not) there will probs be something to do once you buy it ey
I just picked up the ex attorney generals WL Caprice with 145,000KM @ $15,000
I always look for cars 150k and below regardless city or country so this was pushing it, being a government car it would of been serviced well, but i've had cars from the country
with car more KM's in worse condition mechanically then the ones from the city.
It's totally hit and miss but and a general rule now i'd say.
70-130k city
up till 150-170k country.
More km's more you could bargain down anyways if buying private.
as mentioned above if the VZ was serviced properly then you'll be fine.
cheers thaks. thats about the figure I was going to try and stick with, But I know when it comes to it if I find something that looks really nice, and the price is good I'm gonna cave like a drug addict.
I say the lower the better, i picked my VZ up for $19,000 (down from $23,000) a couple yrs ago with only 11,000kms on the clock. i know u wont find one them around these days but ive been nothing but happy with it since. There were plenty others around with 30,000-85,000kms at a few grand cheaper but i chose mine cause I dont mind paying a little extra for a car that has very low ks and i know is gonna last. also u can do a REVS check on the VIN number and see who the last owner is and stuff like Age, Sex of owner and also service and mechanical history and any crash/repair history. i did this with mine and found mine was owned by a 60ish yr old government guy who retired and obviously they sold his gov car when he retired so i brought it that day. a little research goes along way.
sorry i went slightly off the original question but i hope ive helped
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Is alright, found out my cousin is selling a 04 series 2 VY SS with 75000kms on the clock for $15000. So I know the owner, and have a good mate who's a good mechanic that could go over it with a fine tooth comb for me. So if I can convince my cousin to hold onto it until I have the money I'l get it fully checked out and happily pay that for it. It's a beautiful looking car too.
hi ive got a vz with 135,000kms and faultless. next service i will do brakes for the first time, still has brakes from day one in it never touched. even has injected gas system which did at 60,000kms and its great, get about 630kms to a tank and still has great power. have been looking at possible trading it off, but only getting $10,000 for it so i guess i will just keep it. most of the kms on the car are highways country kms. country cars and heaps better then city cars,.
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With 15k service intervals, one missed service is enough to sludge an engine.Originally Posted by 88GreenVN
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If anyone 'misses' 3 oil changes in a row they should be shot.
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It happens. Had an SV6 ute come in the other week with 55,000kms on it for its FIRST service. Engine was cooked. Moron said it was his workhorse and didnt have time to take it off the road for a day for servicing.
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Lol... Doesn't have Ike for a new càr service but has time for an engine rebuild. I hear the VZ cook oil in a lot of cases especially the v8s. I know this is a BUGE hangs to my original plan but I've decided to get what I've always wanted and keep saving untill Incan afford a clubsport. Maybe a VY or something. Retro and insurance will be a killer by hey we do what we like cos we love it right? I've wanted one since I was 12 and I think 15 years is long enough to wait..
Tells it like it is.
The VY Wagon at work has 290xxx km on it and still runs fine. Seen quite a few VZ's well north of 200,000 and going strong. As others have mentioned - being religious with oil changes and general maintenance goes a long way.
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I bought my VS with 200,000 on the clock and barely had any problems in 4 years.
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And now it's off the road for much longer than a day and nice fat repair bill - Mechanics love these people
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In the VZ its the V6s that commonly sludge up, yet to see a sludged V8.
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its meant to be every 7500kms according to the manual. which i have mine done at but it takes me about 6-7 months to do those kms
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