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cooling fan issue

iceman66999

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hello everyone

my car's cooling fans are acting strange

what was like before a while, I'm sure that the cooling fans were turn on when tempreture reach 108C (AC off) and shut down when it reach 103C
now it doesn't start at 108C but it wait until it reaches 114C and shut down at 110C

i know the fans are working because they are, i can see them

i changed the relayes, nothing happend.

and before this issue appears i didn't change anything, it suddenly came out from no where.

please guys help me.
 

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Just to point some logic at you....
could be the readings you are getting are false, OR faulty sensor?
remove sensor/s and clean (shouldn't be an issue though...)

where are you getting the temp readings from?

Tro
 

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Just to point some logic at you....
could be the readings you are getting are false, OR faulty sensor?
remove sensor/s and clean (shouldn't be an issue though...)

where are you getting the temp readings from?

Tro

The reading are from the screen

And can you show me where the sensor/s located

And is there more than one sensor?
 

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I am not sure where they are sorry, have you had a service recently or changed anything?
make sure the levels are good, just in case the pressure switch is getting a false reading (in older cars I'm thinking)
if you have not lost any water, not made any changes ... maybe find out if the 6deg will do any damage ...?

Tro
 

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I am not sure where they are sorry, have you had a service recently or changed anything?
make sure the levels are good, just in case the pressure switch is getting a false reading (in older cars I'm thinking)
if you have not lost any water, not made any changes ... maybe find out if the 6deg will do any damage ...?

Tro

I didnt change anything
My VZ is 2006, i don't know if it considered that old.
Actually I'm losing some water like 0.25 liter per day and I cant figure out where the water goes, I changed the radiator's cap, and nothing changed
But it was losing water and the fans were working idly.

Soooooo
What do you think
 

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Suggest that you make arrangements for a Radiator Specialist to thoroughly check the cooling system using pressure testing. As you have no idea where the coolant is disappearing to continued driving may result in an overheated and seized engine. Very expensive to repair. Good luck.
 

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Check the engine oil on the dipstick. Is it still a nice oily looking colour or does it look like a gooey emulsion? If it looks like the latter then that is where the water is going, into the oil which could be a head gasket problem. just an idea.
But still that doesn't affect the temperature at which the fan(s) turn on and off.
 

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Hey mate how are you.
The coolant temperature sensor is just on top of the exhaust manifold (engine oil dip stick side V6)
Also there could be air in the system.
If your in Sydney i can check it for you i own a genuine Tech2 Scanner i can check for codes and see if everything is in order.
Pm me if your interested.
 

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Find out how you are losing coolant. There are only 2 places where the coolant could go: Outside or mixing with engine oil.

Outside means it is leaking somewhere... check the radiator, the hose, the water pump, the reservoir due to coolant being pushed out the radiator and into the reservoir which is overflowing...usually caused by excessive pressure in the system or a bad radiator cap. Most of the time its the latter but you said you've changed it so if you're losing coolant thru the reservoir then its because of too much pressure...usually thats caused by trapped air in the cooling system, head gasket failure or cracked head. Although the last 2 do happen it is a rare thing. Usually it is trapped air which means you have to bleed the system. Very easy to do. Not sure you have a v6 or a v8. I don't know how to bleed the system on the Alloytec but on the Echotec there is a little screw/valve/bleeder on the thermostat housing which you unscrew to release air. On the v8 you disconnect the top radiator hose and fill the system with coolant from there. So for the Alloytec you will have to find out by asking members here or running a search on Google.

If its not a leak then its mixing with oil and if that's the case then it is easy to find out by looking at the oil on the dip stick. If it looks like chocolate milk or dark brown then that is where the coolant is going. That means you either got bad head gasket or cracked head or cracked engine block. Its rarely cracked head or block and mostly just head gasket that needs to be replaced. Before you start replacing the head gasket, you should do a compression test to be sure.

So if I were you I would do the following:

1. Check the oil and see if there is coolant there.

2. Bleed the system. See if the situation changes. If not then...

3. Thoroughly check and see where the leak is. If I find the leak then a fix it depending on where it is...fill the system with coolant and bleed the it.

There shouldn't be any other things to do because if its like you said that you are losing coolant then like I said it is either mixing with oil or escaping out.
Let us know how it goes.

Good luck!
 

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Well i just checked oil
And it look very normal

Just informing

And i left my dear at a specialist to check the fans electricity

Well ... I have to wait until tomorrow
 
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