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23-03-2006, 02:25 PM
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VZ SV6 Test.. MAF vs MAFLESS
Well, I did some dyno testing last weekend.
Results are in, NO MAF = BETTER AFR'S AND MORE POWER.
Can't wait to get the baby piggybacked and tuned, should be finally unlocking some HFV6 Potential!

WITHOUT MAF
With MAF.
So there we go  Dyno proven
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23-03-2006, 02:39 PM
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wow! that thing gets rich up top, eh?! i am having probs with my MAF(i suspect) on my ecotec, i have a new one there yet to put on, i'll do that, fit my rockers and jump on the dyno again......i reckon i can see your 136-odd Kw with my MAF in place
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23-03-2006, 02:54 PM
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looks like thats the go ben, I will be gettin the mafless tune, piggyback memcal and aorst at the same time in may. Hell yeh.
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I have put SS badges and the kit on my VE Omega and when I go cruising and rev it past the girls.........well what can I say,they have drool running down their face.I chuck a U-turn and they say ''Nice car'' and I say ''It's an SS,jump in''.
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23-03-2006, 02:56 PM
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Yes, but this is a stock engine, minus MAF. Unopened. Only mod is a Twin 2.5" catback and a hot air intake ;p (Unshielded pod in bay)
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23-03-2006, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by highendrev
looks like thats the go ben, I will be gettin the mafless tune, piggyback memcal and aorst at the same time in may. Hell yeh.
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Mine's not actually a Mafless tune. That's just the maf removed. No tune at all.
Re: The piggyback memcal, let me know how you go power wise, Im leaning towards the HKS Fcon SZ + Navigator.
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23-03-2006, 06:39 PM
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ahhh, i didnt know you were running with a stock tune.....i reckon if you pulled some of that fuel out up top to flatten that AFR line, you would pick up a shitload of power mate
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23-03-2006, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by EcotecManiac
ahhh, i didnt know you were running with a stock tune.....i reckon if you pulled some of that fuel out up top to flatten that AFR line, you would pick up a shitload of power mate
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Yeah I know. Piggyback time
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23-03-2006, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by benzor
Mine's not actually a Mafless tune. That's just the maf removed. No tune at all.
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so what have you just pulled out maf and then just drive. has the car played up at all
thanks
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24-03-2006, 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by wgs150
so what have you just pulled out maf and then just drive. has the car played up at all
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It beeps "Check powertrain", but runs fine. I know the auto's will run in limp home mode.
Ive had it backfire on 42+ degree days, but only twice.
Basically, unplug maf. remove maf. reset PCM (20 minutes), drive car hard to relearn. See how you go performance wise 
You will need something to bridge the gap from where the MAF was.. Im just running a pod ATM, but ill work something better when I have time.
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24-03-2006, 11:20 AM
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is there any reason you remove the maf ? is it that restrictive ?
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24-03-2006, 01:59 PM
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for 3rwkw its not worth the hassle, it's un noticable power in the end, and with the car not liking it, it cant be good
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24-03-2006, 06:39 PM
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basically what you are doing is showing how good the backup tables in the tune are.
Rob
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25-03-2006, 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by benzor
Well, I did some dyno testing last weekend.
Results are in, NO MAF = BETTER AFR'S AND MORE POWER.
Can't wait to get the baby piggybacked and tuned, should be finally unlocking some HFV6 Potential!

WITHOUT MAF
With MAF.
So there we go  Dyno proven 
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You said 136.6kw without maf,and VZSV6 said in a old post 145kwhttp://forums.justcommodores.com.au/showthread.php?t=13687.
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25-03-2006, 02:23 AM
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