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Old 12-08-2006, 05:44 PM
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Default Difference between 175kw and 190kw

whats the 190 got to get that extra power from 175?
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Old 12-08-2006, 06:18 PM
 

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15 kw ........
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Old 12-08-2006, 06:35 PM
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nahhhh u reakon i want to know what its got to get that what did they do extra has it got different chip or better air intake?
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Old 12-08-2006, 07:00 PM
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It's the intake manifold
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Old 12-08-2006, 07:47 PM
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i think its got something to do with the variable timing or something, the 175 just has it on the intake but the 190 has it on the exhaust aswell making it more efficient powerwise or something, apparently it just revvs a lot smoother in high rpm than the 175, therefore getting better power
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Old 12-08-2006, 09:59 PM
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Both go pretty much the same, would like to see a turbo version of it.
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Old 13-08-2006, 09:24 AM
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On the 190 you have continuous variable cam phasing constantly adjusts the camshafts to their optium position as you drive.
Also variable intake manifold opens and closes to help maximise torque at lower engine speeds and power at higher engine speeds which gives an extra 15kw of pure power.
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Old 13-08-2006, 09:56 AM
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15 kw ........
I was thinking the same thing...But you beat me to it...
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Old 16-08-2006, 07:02 AM
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Both go pretty much the same, would like to see a turbo version of it.
maybe i was dreaming, but I remember reading somewhere that these new alloytech v6s can just take a supercharger and it'll work out all the computery bits itself. like plug-n-play kinda deal.

Has anyone else heard of this or was i asleep? Coz it sounds like a good dream anyway.
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Old 19-08-2006, 12:13 AM
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i have a ute 175 on 98.... mate has a sv6 with custom air intake runs on reg.... in my experiance power wise didnt feel any different........ handling was different due to the sports suspension and wider feet on the sv6, thats it!
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Old 22-08-2006, 05:38 PM
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i have a ute 175 on 98.... mate has a sv6 with custom air intake runs on reg.... in my experiance power wise didnt feel any different........ handling was different due to the sports suspension and wider feet on the sv6, thats it!
Yeah. theres not much between em. I drove an auto 175 vs my manual sv6 tho, that was noticeable.

And yes, adding an 8PSI Supercharger to the engine wont require a tune at all, it runs pig rich as it is.
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Old 27-08-2006, 08:38 PM
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yeah benzor both vehicles i talk bout there are manual..... i had to wait a month for mine to be built... holden at the time didnt have any manuals in stock other than 1x S which i didnt quite have the money for at the time :S
but yeah it may be the way i drive whoknows... dyno knows? :P
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Old 30-08-2006, 08:24 PM
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The major differences, apart from computer software, are that the 190 has a two stage inlet manifold and variable timing on both inlet and exhaust valves: the 175 has a plain manifold and only fiddles the inlet valves.
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Old 04-09-2006, 08:32 PM
 

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i think they just tuned the 175 down more thats the only difference
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