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well soon i'm going to be looking at getting a newer car
i've driven almost everything on the market thanks to my work (perents car dealership) and now they've convinced me i should sell the vs and replace it with a ute, either a vz or ve. this is due to the fact that they think i should be driving a late model commodore myself so as other people think they should update too (fair enough, i can sorta understand that)
now whilst i like the idea of a new flashy ride, due to the victorian p plate fighting brigade it will need to be a six. as all the above mentioned vehicles have an alloytech for the v6 variant it will be one those powering it.
my problem is out of all the drivelines in the cars i've seen in commodores, i've never hated one as much as the alloytech. the whining timing chains, delayed response of the electric throttle, lack of any low down torque, uninspiring diff ratio, **** gearbox's (4 speed orignally from the 70's, 5 speed auto that it right at its torque carrying capacity and has **** response time when manually changing with a/s, and cheap notchy 6 spd manual) terrible fuel economy compared to an ecotec when driven to the same etc etc
i have a 600,000km vl n/a manual paddock basher which i can honestly say has a better low down torque curve in terms of drivability than a brand new ve commodore
basically i'm not creating an alloytech bashing thread, although i do beleive holden had the capability to build a lot better motor. i'm asking how do these things react to a decent tune and exhaust? my biggest hate with them is the poxy throttle repsonse, no torque for towing, and ****house sound. i can live with the fuel bill, even though it is worse than the ecotec.
i'm not really interested in boost, as i've said i've always wanted something with decent torque. so as soon as the four years go-p plates go, so will this car so i don't want to lose 5k more than i already would on a forced induction setup. as that means i'm only 5k further away from the car i actually want at the end of the four years
also what would people recommend in gearbox's? i'm a manual man but after how many i've heard of and seen replaced (aisin warner 6 speed) i'm not real keen there. hate the four speed for its old origins and clunky gear changes, and don't really like the 5 speed for its constant choice of wrong ratios and slow changes when using A/S
also saying that, the amount of vz diffs i've seen ****ed lately is mad. and even a few seized motors
anyhow, chuck me your opinion