Buying a VZ at Auction

[88GreenVN]

What should I look for?

Had a look at 7 VZ's Friday. 6 looked very clean under the bonnet - 1 had sand on the chassis rails and water stains around the engine bay.

None has oil leaks that I could see.

Also I know about the fuel gauge problem - is there anything else I should look out for?

[andrewmac]

Keep an eye out for leaks from power steering they are prone to leaking hoses, (if you can start them) listen for rattles on start up.
Just a few little issues im aware of

[88GreenVN]

Keep an eye out for leaks from power steering they are prone to leaking hoses, (if you can start them) listen for rattles on start up.
Just a few little issues im aware of

A car yard salesman I spoke to on Friday was saying the VY is still the No1 choice as it's the last of that motor - the VZ being new has had some problems!! I'm thinking what problems??? He lost me when he started talking up the Fords in the lot.

Any engine can spin a bearing or get a death rattle - just depends on the way it went together and how its serviced over time.

Do the VZ's have any tranny issues?

I'm thinking the brakes could be sus at around 80,000kms with new rotors on the cards. But that seems to be the norm now - rotors and pads changed at the same time.

Scratches in the centre console facia could be an issue for some - but new bits from Holden can fix that cheaply.

What about the rear end - tyre wear? I'm not going to lower it at all.

[andyman]

A car yard salesman I spoke to on Friday was saying the VY is still the No1 choice as it's the last of that motor - the VZ being new has had some problems!! I'm thinking what problems??? He lost me when he started talking up the Fords in the lot.

Any engine can spin a bearing or get a death rattle - just depends on the way it went together and how its serviced over time.

Do the VZ's have any tranny issues?

I'm thinking the brakes could be sus at around 80,000kms with new rotors on the cards. But that seems to be the norm now - rotors and pads changed at the same time.

Scratches in the centre console facia could be an issue for some - but new bits from Holden can fix that cheaply.

What about the rear end - tyre wear? I'm not going to lower it at all.

engine problems, pfff, i work on these at least twice a week and have never come across one that leaks engine oil, or abnormal noises, these engine would have to be 100% better than ecotec quality wise, longetivity hasnt been proven yet as its new but should last a few hundred thousand with out trouble,

power steering leaks is just a commodore thing, just tighten the hose clamps and she'll be all good,

4l60e is old school but updated a bit, shifts are smooth, 5l65e in the 190's are close to the 4l's but with an extra cog,

tyre wear problems have been rectified in the vy/vz, mine is wearing dead even but they are alignable so its not an issue > heavy towing will wear em a bit but expected

[andrewmac]

What were you looking at getting ??
Alloytec - 190 - Gen 3 - Manual - auto ??
That will prob narrow it down a bit too haha

[f1tzy]

the manual tranny is good if the clutch is a little on the pussy side of the fence if they can be driven check for the diff backlash

[88GreenVN]

Getting the V6 auto (white probably) with between 48,000 and 97,000kms.

There is 7 to choose from this auction on Monday.

I cant drive them, but they all look good underneath bar 1. (1 has sand & water damage)

They are all dent free and show little wear inside. One has a scratched up centre console.

The biggest issue to date would be the bad fuel gauge - else they make good power, return OK fuel economy. Have a reasonable ride quality.

The better half should be very happy with a VZ with around 50 to 60,000kms on the clock.

[88GreenVN]

engine problems, pfff, i work on these at least twice a week and have never come across one that leaks engine oil, or abnormal noises, these engine would have to be 100% better than ecotec quality wise, longetivity hasnt been proven yet as its new but should last a few hundred thousand with out trouble,

power steering leaks is just a commodore thing, just tighten the hose clamps and she'll be all good,

4l60e is old school but updated a bit, shifts are smooth, 5l65e in the 190's are close to the 4l's but with an extra cog,

tyre wear problems have been rectified in the vy/vz, mine is wearing dead even but they are alignable so its not an issue > heavy towing will wear em a bit but expected

Sales talk on the engine - he must have had 2 many VY's in stock.

I'm with you on they are better than the ecotec. Not proven over time yet - but if they were going to be a problem we would have seen it by now I think.

I'm going to risk it and get the VZ - bugga the fuel gauge thing - just keep it full a fuel = no problemo.

Thanks for the replys.

It's off the the auction I go - Hi Ho. (via the internet)

[andrewmac]

Cool good on ya mate
So us pics as soon as ya et her and enjoy

[andyman]

Sales talk on the engine - he must have had 2 many VY's in stock.

I'm with you on they are better than the ecotec. Not proven over time yet - but if they were going to be a problem we would have seen it by now I think.

I'm going to risk it and get the VZ - bugga the fuel gauge thing - just keep it full a fuel = no problemo.

Thanks for the replys.

It's off the the auction I go - Hi Ho. (via the internet)

the fuel guage is covered by warranty, im guessing you are aiming for a late 05 early 06 plated, which means you will have another year or so of nvw left,

when i got mine with the fuel getting low in the tank it would sometimes say there is no fuel with alarms going of its nut then start it up 5 minutes later with the guage reading neally half full

the new software has fixed the unstability but it under estimates (which isnt a bad thing) eg it says there is 5 litres of fuel left but i can only get 50 in,

when you get it go over it find defects then say hello to your local favorite dealer to have items replaced, i had my car for only a week before it was booked in to get door handles, and numerous interior parts replaces

[88GreenVN]

when you get it go over it find defects then say hello to your local favorite dealer to have items replaced, i had my car for only a week before it was booked in to get door handles, and numerous interior parts replaces

I figure something will be wrong with it as it is a car....... I dont thing I would buy and older car at auction - but 1 thats around 2-3 years old should be OK with plenty of life left in it.

Fingers crossed I get a good one.

I'll post photos and details if I win one. I'm told the car yardies are buying up for xmas as the auction houses close for 2 months over xmas.

All 7 VZ's I've looked at are spread throughout the auction so it's going to be a long 2 hours - hoping no one comes in the office while I'm going for a bid.

[naf33n]

ive bought 3 vz's from auction 1 berlina 1 manual sv6 and 1 auto sv6. so thats one of every engine/tranny combo you can get in the vz sedans.
none of them have had a problem excpet one had the power steering leak which was just a hose clamp. and all 3 fuel gauges work fine and seem to be fairly accurate.

[naf33n]

woops double posts

[88GreenVN]

Here is the new baby in White. 48,000kms. Winning bid at $15,600.

Very clean inside & out.

Aggreed Value insurance has it pegged at between $19,279 and $23,519.

[andyman]

well done it'll look after you, im guessing its a late 05? do you know the history of it, ie what department it belonged to?

[88GreenVN]

well done it'll look after you, im guessing its a late 05? do you know the history of it, ie what department it belonged to?

aaaaarh cant remember which was which.

I looked at so many cars over the past month. It does have full service history and looks to be a single person car. Didn't look like anything was ever put in the boot or sat in thhe back. Spotless is the word that comes to mind. The car is just over 2 years old - Sep 05.

The other cars sold for around the same money but were a little rough around the edges and I stopped bidding at the 15k mark.

The one with water damage went for under 12k.

Several of the higher km cars (VZ's) didn't make reserve @ 13-14k. They had $15,100 & $15,900 on the windows (reserve) so the hammer price may not be the true sale price.

Over all as the 'money gone from the bank' sinks in - I'm happy for the wife as she will get to drive it most. AND she has waited 2 years for a newish car while I got a job and saved some cash.

[andyman]

aaaaarh cant remember which was which.

I looked at so many cars over the past month. It does have full service history and looks to be a single person car. Didn't look like anything was ever put in the boot or sat in thhe back. Spotless is the word that comes to mind. The car is just over 2 years old - Sep 05.

The other cars sold for around the same money but were a little rough around the edges and I stopped bidding at the 15k mark.

The one with water damage went for under 12k.

Several of the higher km cars (VZ's) didn't make reserve @ 13-14k. They had $15,100 & $15,900 on the windows (reserve) so the hammer price may not be the true sale price.

Over all as the 'money gone from the bank' sinks in - I'm happy for the wife as she will get to drive it most. AND she has waited 2 years for a newish car while I got a job and saved some cash.

it went to a well deserving owner, mine is 2 months older than yours bought it with 69***km, (was one of our work vehicles) i paid 18560 for it 3-4 months ago pre-auction so i paid 10% extra for it, i guess it cost more because it wasnt a normal colour and work had just slapped 12-months rego on it a week earlier, its also in really good nic for a council car lol


anything planned for it? or keeping it stock

[AttaBoy]

Thats a very nice car you got there!! The interior looks mint! I'm also considering buying a VZ in early 08'.

I'm seriously considering going to the auctions but what sets me back is that I may get a lemon , troublesome car. Is there any tips on what I can or can't do to the car?? Am I allowed to pop the bonnet, start the car?? Check the service history and the usuals?? Or is the car untouchable??

[naf33n]

basicly you can do anything but move it from its spot. even starting the car and just goin in and out of gears is fine and rolling a meter or two just to see how it acts is fine.

[Boonz]

Fingers crossed I get a good one.

if its an EX nurse transport vehicle you are laughing, they do highway k's only between where they live on weekends and back to work on mondays

which fleet company was it owned by??

[88GreenVN]

anything planned for it? or keeping it stock

Keeping it stock - just window tint and some good rubber.

[88GreenVN]

if its an EX nurse transport vehicle you are laughing, they do highway k's only between where they live on weekends and back to work on mondays

which fleet company was it owned by??

Lease car from Testra. Purchased Nov 05.

So the head lights are on all the time - Just need to replace the relay I think.

Drove it home today - Brakes are nice.... Heavy ish on the steering.

I'll check tyre pressure tonight after work.

[Boonz]

i think that its programmed into the BCM to ahve the lights on all the time, almost 100% sure that it will have to have its ECU,BCM and fuel gauge calibration reflashed with the updated settings... fleet companies are lazy with updates thats the only bad thing about some of them....
shouldnt cost you anything if it hasent been done tho cos its under warranty

[88GreenVN]

i think that its programmed into the BCM to ahve the lights on all the time, almost 100% sure that it will have to have its ECU,BCM and fuel gauge calibration reflashed with the updated settings... fleet companies are lazy with updates thats the only bad thing about some of them....
shouldnt cost you anything if it hasent been done tho cos its under warranty

I'll get it done at the 60,000 service. The VX we had just needed the relay thingo changed - cost 60 odd dollars from memory. (probably got ripped off)

Other than that and a nail in a rear tyre alls good for this VZ.

I'm happy - I get my v8 VN back at last - Yippy

72 Beetle now for sale - only 195,000 original miles and buckets of rust.

[andyman]

I'll get it done at the 60,000 service.

diy my friend, i cant remember what the option pack is called but it relates to telstra cars/cars with the lights on option (< well dah),

all you need to do i believe is pull the headlight switch out, the patch harness will be plugged in so swap it over with the other identical plug sitting there and its back to normal