H.I.D. Xenon headlight conversion

[Benboy]

Has anyone done the HID headlight conversion using the kit available off e-bay [URL="http://cgi.ebay.com.au/H4-Dual-Xenon-HID-Headlamp-Conversion-Kit-New_W0QQitemZ150150083986QQihZ005QQcategoryZ102560 QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem"] ? I'd be interested to hear any feedback - pros and cons.

[Benboy]

Sorry, the link didn't work, try again H4 Dual Xenon HID Headlamp Conversion Kit New - eBay Exterior, Lights, Light Accessories, Car Accessories, Tuning, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 06-Feb-08 12:34:26 AEDST)

[andyman]

if your gunna buy a hid kit (which is canaryable without other modifications as per regulations) only get phillips and another that i cant remember the name of,

those ebay kits are just poor quality and dont last long

[1991_Vn2nV]

As said above, average lifespan of non German made kits (not talking just ebay here) are 174 hours. Average lifespan of Phillips and the other German made brand are 2400+ hours.

Do the math

[Benboy]

if your gunna buy a hid kit (which is canaryable without other modifications as per regulations) only get phillips and another that i cant remember the name of,

those ebay kits are just poor quality and dont last long

Thanks for your reply.
Am I to understand that 'canaryable' implies defect? If so in what regard do you consider that they might be illegal - as you state they require modification. Why? I can understand that some will last longer than others. Same applies to cars, women and money.

[gslrallysport]

Hey ya'll, we've got HID kits that we offer an 18month warranty for a road car (and even 12 months warranty on a RALLY or off-road car), and not alot more than Ebay prices. They are made in China (so is most stuff these days) however, but they are good quality and we wouldn't warrant them in motorsport competition if we thought otherwise.

Also, for a headlamp conversion where it wasn't designed for HID, stay away from the dual bi-xenon as the high beam filament is offset, and doesn't focus at all... Go for the H4 moving, and you also don't have the warm up time between flicking from hi to low beam.

[andyman]

Thanks for your reply.
Am I to understand that 'canaryable' implies defect? If so in what regard do you consider that they might be illegal - as you state they require modification. Why? I can understand that some will last longer than others. Same applies to cars, women and money.

yes it is defectable (if the coppers can spot it though) according to adr regulations if a hid is fitted the headlights must also be fitted with self levelers and either wipers or washers (think older range rovers/ mercs) to clean the headlight from snow, dirt etc (as it will deflect the light),

the people you follow and oncomming traffic wont be to pleased with you having improperly adjustable hid lights as they are damm bright

im not talking b/s we had a phillips rep come to tafe and talk to us about there products and thats what he said to us about there conversion kits, hence why it states it for offroad use

[Benboy]

Thanks for all replies. Sounds like it might be all too hard at this stage, what with self levelling, washers etc.

[andyman]

Thanks for all replies. Sounds like it might be all too hard at this stage, what with self levelling, washers etc.

you could by phillips performance gt bulbs about $60 for a pair, they are much brighter than the factory bulbs and are a nice clean white light, much better alternative than converting to hid,

there is also crystal vision bulbs also by phillips that are not legal but are a ultra white/blue light, i think there as bright or a bit less than standard bulbs as they have a really high kelvin rating

[Keepleft]

Andyman is rightly suggesting marketed "PLUS 50" (et al) variety.

For Part Numbers, see the online catalogues at Narva/Hella etc. These bulbs are ADR/UNECE compliant.

All headlamps have 'compliance markings', eg an 'H' = halogen, modify that source and your defectable.

[TELF SS]

HI
I have hid lights 6000k in my SS normal beam as well as 5000k diamond vision in both high beam and fog lights
and yes they are bloody bright

comments i get from night cruises are gee there bright are you going deer shooting you could with those lights
i have to stick to the left hand lane so as not to blind the driver if i am in the right hand lane
no major problem if up close to car in front

only been pulled over by mr plod for having fog light on while driving

i wont go back to normal ones

BENBOY if want to see them at night we could arrange something to help you make up your mind send a pm

kim

[Benboy]

Hey Kim and others thanks for the input. Whilst HID looks to be the superior form of illumination, the legalities and potential for them to cause inconvenience to other motorists seems a bit unacceptable for me. I might wait awhile and see if someone comes out with a conversion that will address the legalities of it all. In the meantime I might have a look at the Phillips/Crystal Vision globes option.

Has anyone had problems with their headlight reflectors overheating/going black etc from increased light/temperature output?

[gslrallysport]

Hey Kim and others thanks for the input. Whilst HID looks to be the superior form of illumination, the legalities and potential for them to cause inconvenience to other motorists seems a bit unacceptable for me. I might wait awhile and see if someone comes out with a conversion that will address the legalities of it all. In the meantime I might have a look at the Phillips/Crystal Vision globes option.

If you go 4300K, which put out more light anyway, you won't have the attention of HID's as they're a much more white light (closer to sunlight) than the 6000K blue lights... HID by design will always have the issue of legality, as they're such a concentrated light, no aftermarket kits, unless it includes self dipping headlights will fix the issue. In other words I wouldn't be holding your breath.

We only stock 4300K and 5000K kits as they look the same as Halogen's but put out 3 times the light output, and in a rally car, rocketing through the forest at night, the 4300K puts out more light and more useable light than the 6000K.

If you're serious about light output, and not macca's cred, get a 4300K and you'll be fine with the cops, they won't notice...

Has anyone had problems with their headlight reflectors overheating/going black etc from increased light/temperature output?

No, because HID's produce less heat than Halogen's do...

[immortality]

i've got some narva Forward Lighting compac driving lamps in the garage (had em for years lying under my work bench). i'm pretty sure their a projector style setup. they use H3 globes. considering putting these on my ride with a HID conversion. this way i retain the standard headlamps but have the option of extra light when not in built upo areas