Genuine VZ police pads?

[Torquative]

Hey all,

I think I saw this when I was playin with the Microcat parts catalogue towards the end of last year - genuine police pads for VZ?

Is there such a thing or did I dream it?

I like the genuine pads, they are dust free, I'm just trying to increase the grip level because the genuine pads dont have enough bight, especially at higher temps which doesnt help when I'm driving through steep downhil windy roads.

Failing this has anyone acctually found an aftermarket pads thats dust free but still offers performance?

[knowledge_is_power]

There is a "Police Spec" pad. Basically it is the same backing plate as normal pads but has more friction material on it. Bendix part number is DB1344 for the police spec, and DB1331 for the standard. If you go to the bendix web site and us there online catalogue you can search by the part numbers and you can get an idea on whats different.

Some aftermarket pads will use the same surface area of the police spec pads as their standard 1331 pad.

As to dust less pads, generally speaking the dusty pads work better as it is a compramise but there are a few around these days that are low dust and have great performance, a lot of people recommend EBC pads.

Jezz

[adamc11]

Hey mate... you will want to speak to either GSL Rally Sport GSL RallySport - Just Commodores (also see:QFM HPX VT-VZ Police Spec Performance Brake Pads)
or the user 'Not_an_abba_fan'.

They both have the same police spec pads, that are practically dust free. Will be ordering myself some sometime soon.

[adamc11]

There is a "Police Spec" pad. Basically it is the same backing plate as normal pads but has more friction material on it. Bendix part number is DB1344 for the police spec, and DB1331 for the standard. If you go to the bendix web site and us there online catalogue you can search by the part numbers and you can get an idea on whats different.

Some aftermarket pads will use the same surface area of the police spec pads as their standard 1331 pad.

As to dust less pads, generally speaking the dusty pads work better as it is a compramise but there are a few around these days that are low dust and have great performance, a lot of people recommend EBC pads.

Jezz

Just on this... the QFM police spec pads are known to be better than the Bendix ones (much less dust). The EBC greenstuff pads are good, but cost a fair bit more. The QFM ones are about $75 a set (might include shipping, not sure).

[BullittSV6]

Yeah when I need to change my brake pads I will be ordering a pair of the GSL Pads. I had a read of the thread not long ago and they sound great for a cheap pair.

[Kung-Foo-Kamel]

Frodo XL's are also great, I was getting brake fade due to heat with factory pads but not with these, good for street and heavey use, crap all over the factory ones

Then you have Bendix Ultimates, these are the best, there really hard but once there warm they are awsome

I have seen the Police spec ones, cant comment on them as I have never used them, I personally wouldnt want anything "Police spec" on my car as I would prefer "Better than police spec" on my car hahahahah

Cheers

KFK

[Benboy]

Have you considered driving a little slower or perhaps even using a lower gear ?

[BullittSV6]

Personally I'd rather a pad that uses all of the available contact area like the police pads. For those heart in your mouth moments when you have roo's come in front you on the highway, I know what I'd rather be using.

I saw the tech drawings for both the standard and police spec pads and the contact area is significantly more.

[Kung-Foo-Kamel]

Personally I'd rather a pad that uses all of the available contact area like the police pads. For those heart in your mouth moments when you have roo's come in front you on the highway, I know what I'd rather be using.

I saw the tech drawings for both the standard and police spec pads and the contact area is significantly more.

Yeh same with Frodo's, if you compare them agaisnt the standard pads there is a lot more pad covering all the serface area, the standard ones a crap

[Torquative]

only problem is the same ol story, you have to deal with brake dust in order to have a decent pad.

I have the QFMs installed in both an Adventra and an Acclaim. The Acclaim did just on 1000 kays on the weekend from Sydney to Canberra, Canberra to Bathurst (the long way there) and back to Sydney. There was a bit of dust but overall not too bad for photos because there was next to no stopping.

Get the car into peak hour though, nothing special, no "high speed stopping" or heavy braking, and by Tuesday afternoon the rims are black.

If only there was a pad that had the performance of a "police spec pad" ie covered the entire backing plate but with the dustless performance of the genuine pad, because Ive never had dust with a genuine pad but as mentioned have had it fade over after heavy braking, or at least struggle to pull up, especially when towing a heavy load with the Adventra, and for instance some idiot has decided to jump in front of me as we approach a red light ...

[tja_bot]

I know this is off subject but can anyone recommend what are a good set of discs for a vz SV6?

Car has 70,000kms and already gone through 2 sets of front discs due to the discs warping.

[VzSS06]

Ive got a set (front and rears) of the QFM police pads still new in box.I bought them for my VZ SS but before i got round to fitting them i purchased a set of HSV 4 piston brakes so if anyone is after a complete set at a slightly reduced price just PM me.Oh and i still have the receipt from GSL Rallysport to go with them.
At present my car has the bendix ultimates(as i havent fitted the 4 pistons yet) and they are a pain!!!

[Jase_81]

I had bendix police pads on my car and I found that they are good but take to long to warm up. I brought genuine police brake pads from holden that cover the whole backing pad and they work fantasic only cost $100 and have less dust than bendix. I also have slotted discs which help alittle.

[Torquative]

hey Jase, can I please have the part number for those pads.

guys, this is where my concern comes into it with the QFM's. They leave brake dust on both cars we have them fitted too.


Here is my rim, photo taken on Saturday morning. I travelled down to Canberra, then to Bathurst, then back. Overall it was okay, had some brake dust but nothing you can notice on the photos. If you look at the photo at the top left you can see where I ran my finger over the rim once I got back from Bathurst.

Then I had the car in peak hour traffic for 4 days ... you can see the results.

http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/...pads-after.jpg

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I washed the Adventra on Sunday and cleaned the rims. Now I'll admit around the rim where tyre meets rim is covered in crap where I missed it, but the face of the rims were spotless.

I went down the road to fill it with fuel, so only a block away. Came back and its been sprayed with a light black dust ...

http://forums.justcommodores.com.au/...s-adventra.jpg

I understand softer pad = better performance = quicker stop = more dust but Ive been told by so many people these pads are dust free or close too, only to have this happen ...

[vz 914]

Try Ultra Performance Components in Melbourne , this guy is a brake Guru does a pad with the same contact area as police spec pads but the compound is the same as what BMW use and NO Heavy Dust.

Tony Ewards is the guys name PH 97239924

[Torquative]

thanks, but I'm gonna stick to the genuine Holden pad if it has the same "police spec" contact area because we've never had an issue with the genuine pads.

Only reason is I work for BMW, I wouldnt say their pads are much better

[Jase_81]

Sorry dont have the part number. If you contact your local dealer and ask for police pads I m sure they ll give you details. Also this pads are good and reasonably priced but they are harsh on the rotors. I got approx 40,000 out of my rotors and X2 set of pads on bendix pads. But come to think about it I am happy to lose life of the rotors to gain better brake preformance.