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    Hi Guys and gals,

    It's been a while since I've been in here, and it's great to see it's very busy.

    I was just wondering if anyone knows where Holden is going with it's Commordore labelling now that they've got to VZ.

    Any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mixin
    It's pretty well known now that VE will succeed the VZ.
    cheers,

    but is this the end of the 'V' series?

    I'm not fully up with where it's going at this point.

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    It's still a continuation of the world V-cart platform, but it's a whole new model change, still retaining existing drivetrains however, like the VS>VT change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve
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    I was just wondering about the name, that's all.

    I think GM is more worried about their future then the name for the next model.Youll find once the VE is established and looks like a winner,then theyll decide the name of the next model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve
    but is this the end of the 'V' series?

    I'm not fully up with where it's going at this point.
    And in reality nor is anyone else outside Holden. As previously mentioned, it is pretty well known that the next model will be VE. I dunno where to after that, but I'd hazard a guess at VF. VE will be built on an all-new platform, so I'd suggest that the "V" series will be around until the new platform has run its course.

    From history we can see that Holden tends to run Commodore platforms for about 8 years: VB to VL = 8 years, VN to VS = 8 years, VT to VZ = 8 years (so far), so I'd say that the "V" series still has at least 10 years (incorporating 4 or 5 model revisions) to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clixanup
    From history we can see that Holden tends to run Commodore platforms for about 8 years: VB to VL = 8 years, VN to VS = 8 years, VT to VZ = 8 years (so far), so I'd say that the "V" series still has at least 10 years (incorporating 4 or 5 model revisions) to go.
    Ahem, 3 months shy of 10 years for the first run (VB-VL) - October '78 to July '88

    VN-VS was technically 9 years - July '88 to July '97.

    However if you look at the utes & statesmans they kept going (in ute form) until mid 2000 (VU came out just in time for the Olympics in September 2000), taking it to 12 years!!

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    Place bets now!! Plenty more gambling oppertunity!!

    So lets look at what we have left, obviously starting from VE.

    VF, VI, VJ, VM, VO, VV.

    Cut out a couple that just sound lame (VV for instance) and I'd say theres plenty of life left in the V line.
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    You could always go backwards like Holden did? FE, FC, FB, EK, EJ, EH.....

    And change the letter series with the same body? (FB/EK).

    Then scatter all over the place: HQ, HJ, HX, HZ, WB..... Or LC, LJ, LH, LX, UC.

    So don't rule out the options of VA, or VD.... (and although VA was apparently denoted as a code for pilot/test cars, they were never publicly sold).

    And can you imagine a VW commodore......

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    Quote Originally Posted by mixin
    Ahem, 3 months shy of 10 years for the first run (VB-VL) - October '78 to July '88

    VN-VS was technically 9 years - July '88 to July '97.
    Yes, you're right.

    Sorry, I'm half asleep today. Been a heavy week....

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    Holden can't use VD 'cause apparently it's a disease.
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    So they can't have Veneral Disease but the first commodore was a Victoria Bitter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mixin
    You could always go backwards like Holden did? FE, FC, FB, EK, EJ, EH.....
    Doesn't that sound a little too Ford for you?

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    Then scatter all over the place: HQ, HJ, HX, HZ, WB..... Or LC, LJ, LH, LX, UC.
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    When has Ford gone backwards with it's codes? Going from XY to XA doesn't count 'cause Ford wanted to use up all the letters before 'K' (Y'know, XK).

    Another thing did you know that the X Line kept going right up until only 1999? When the EA Falcon came out, the XF Ute kept on going and going 'till 93 when the XG (facelift, not based on E Line) came out? Then then the XH came out in '95 with an XD arse end and dash but an EF front (oddball I know...) and it was finally killed in '99 when Ford brought out the AU Ute (they decided to call it the same as the sedan/wagon again...). The XH was the last true aussie built panel van too... (the VY-VZ doesn't count 'cause it's just a canopy sitting on the back of a ute...). That's my history class for the day..... .
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    Quote Originally Posted by jetspin_vl
    Doesn't that sound a little too Ford for you?
    Quite the opposite actually, Holden made the FB, FC and FE years before Ford used those codes on LTDs.

    And although Holden used EH, EJ & EK, ford skipped around those codes when it used the E series some 30 years later.......

    So I'd say ford are sounding a little too HOLDEN.......

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    You can probably exclude VF and VJ cause they were Valliant models and we've had the VG ute, so there's really not much else left.

    Only, VA, VI, VO,VV and the previously identified and highly unsuitable VD!

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    Didn't stop Holden using VH & VK some 10 years after Chrysler used the same codes on Valiants, so I don't think they'd worry 30-40 years on!

    Oh - VC, VG and VE were also Valiants too!

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