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Discussion in 'VY - VZ - WK - WL - V2' started by DevilDRake, Oct 16, 2015.

  1. DevilDRake

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    Firstly, hopefully I stay with this car haha - I suppose if my ute never got written off this wouldn't be happening.
    Tried out the Subaru but ended up having endless expensive problems, so back to the Holdens!

    Name: Kyle
    Model: 2004 VY Series II S Manual
    Colour: Quick Silver
    Engine Type: Ecotec 3.8L
    Gearbox: 5Spd Manual Getrag Factory
    Kilometers: 192,xxx (When I bought it - Blew up at 194500) - New engine fitted with 155xxx km's @ Odometer 194500
    Stereo: See below


    Mods/Wishlist List:
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    D = Done

    O = On Order/already have but not installed
    X = Coming up next!


    Engine:
    [D] Rear main seal - 24/10/15
    [D] 1.9 Roller Rockers with pushrods - 24/10/15
    [D] New Rocker cover gaskets - 24/10/15
    [D] Raptor Supercharger with Lightened internals - 28/11/15
    - Billet Impeller (faster & higher boosting)
    - Liquid cooled charger

    [D] New engine fitted - 29/12/15
    [D] New engine mount - 29/12/15
    [ ] Mace airbox enclosure
    [ ] 82 Degree thermostat
    [ ] 69mm Throttle body
    [ ] Reverse Plenum
    [ ] Intercooler + piping


    Drivetrain:
    [D] Xtreme HD Clutch with Single-Mass Flywheel - 24/10/15
    [D] New Clutch Slave Cylinder - 24/10/15
    [D] ANOTHER New Clutch Slave Cylinder - 29/12/15
    [D] Getrag Short Shifter - 23/10/15
    [D] Tailshaft Centre Bearing - 24/10/15
    [D] Tailshaft rubber donut - 24/10/15
    [D] Both gearbox mounts - 24/10/15
    [D] Clutch and gearbox oil flush [REPLAC - 24/10/15
    [D] Gearbox oil flush - 29/12/15
    [D] 3.46 Reconditioned LSD - 29/10/15
    [ ] Gearbox extension housing seal

    Exhaust:
    [D] Pacemaker Supercharged extractors PH5061 w/ 2.5" Outlet - 27/10/15
    [D] 2 x 2.5" 200CPSI Venom Cats - 27/10/15
    [D] Custom Twin 2.5" Y Pipe into twin 2.25" Exhaust with tips - 27/10/15
    [D] Bosch Oxygen Sensors - 27/10/15


    Fuel/Ignition/Tuning:
    [D] New NGK Spark plugs [REPLACED] - 4/11/15
    [D] New Spark plugs - 29/12/15
    [D] New NGK Spark plug leads - 4/11/15
    [D] Changed coil pack and DFI module - 5/11/15
    [D] Tuned PCM - 6/11/15
    [D] 36lb injectors - 6/11/15
    [O] Walbro 255L High-Flow in-tank Fuel pump

    [ ] High-Pressure fuel regulator
    [ ] Custom Tune

    Body:
    [D] Custom plates - 15/10/15
    [D] Colour match L/H Mirror - 16/10/15
    [D] SS headlights - 16/10/15
    [D] Foglights - 21/10/15
    [D] Bonnet struts - 24/10/15
    [D] VT SS 17" Rims - 31/10/15
    [X] 15% Tint
    [ ] Front bar respray
    [ ] R/H Rear door respray
    [ ] Touch up R/H side skirt
    [ ] Foglight wiring + Relay
    [ ] Slimline weather shields
    [ ] 20" Rims
    [ ] Bobtail lip w/ Brakelight
    [ ] Tow bar cover

    Suspension/Brakes:
    [D] Rear swaybar bushes - 24/10/15
    [D] Front Swaybar Link pin kit - 13/11/15
    [ ] DBA T2 Front/Rear Rotors
    [ ] Brake pads (unsure)
    [ ] New Strut top bearings
    [ ] King Spring SL's front/rear
    [ ] Shortened Front/Rear Shocks Struts
    [ ] Rolled Guards

    Interior:
    [D] Floor mats - 18/10/15
    [D] New instrument cluster glass - 19/10/15
    [D] Phreddy conversion 6/11/15
    - Digital Speedometer
    - Speed correction from 3.08 to 3.46 Differential
    - Blue Switches throughout car
    - Blue with red redline on cluster
    - Cluster morphing needles blue to red

    [D] Speaker grills in doors - 8/11/15 (still need rear r/h speaker grill changed)
    [D] SAAS 2 gauge pod - 14/11/15
    [D] Autotecnica electrical Volts gauge - 14/11/15
    [D] Autotecnica electrical Boost Gauge - 14/11/15
    [D] Blue Leather seats - 23/11/15
    [D] Blue Leather door trims - 23/11/15
    [D] Satin door handles - 23/11/15
    [X] Replace glovebox rubbers
    [ ] Parcel shelf without 6x9 holes cut.
    [ ] Boot lid carpet
    [ ] New gearshifter boot

    Stereo:
    [D] Subwoofer amp - Responsive Precision 1000WRMS into 1ohm - 14/11/15
    [D] Subwoofer - 15" American Bass XFL1522 1000WRMS into 1ohm - 14/11/15
    [D] 1750WRMS Stinger wiring kit w/ 175A fuse - 14/11/15
    [D] New headunit - Kenwood DDX-4015BT Touchscreen - 14/11/15
    [D] Rewire new headunit and fix existing wiring - 14/11/15
    [D] Fit Doubledin VY facia kit - 15/11/15
    [D] Unwire parcel shelf 6x9 - 15/11/15
    [O] 2 x 12" Polk Audio MM1240 Subwoofers
    [ ] Change current 6.5" Clarion splits for something better
    [ ] 6" Rears
    [ ] 4 Channel Amplifer


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    Foglights pronto.
     
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    I dont mind the wheels you have at the moment.
    To give you an idea of what sl all round on 20's look like.
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    Yeah definitely needs foglights which aren't far away, but others things are coming first.

    Yeah SLs are what I'll get it, I really dislike my rims though. Problem is they have new tyres so it'd be a waste

    From first post:

    First thing I did was pull out the dodgy stereo sub/amp that wasn't even connected.

    The wiring done by the previous owners is ridiculous, I'm going to have to cut the whole Loom and start again.

    Anyway Pictures below, before I wash it they're just ****

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    Ok lets start this from the top.

    1) you better keep this :p stop changing cars all the time, if this ends up like your Blue VY i will hit you in the balls with a cattle prod a few dozen times on maximum voltage.

    2) we think its a 3.08 non lsd, looks like its been changed at some stage so who knows.

    3) agreed, they are ####ing **** rims.

    4) agreed, person who wired it's a ####ing moron.

    5) Engine parts, you forgot the rear main i'll have to put in at the same time as i install the rest of it as well on that list :p

    6) Body parts, don't ditch the spoiler, putting the rear window brake light in is annoying as ****, especially since the rear window glass is probably different, foglights was a bit pointless since the car has no fog-light loom, should've saved cash and got the blanks but meh will look better even if they dont work, you also forgot the big scuff/scratch on the front bar since i assume the front ends been knocked before based on the 2nd hand bumper and the **** headlights that were on it.

    7) Suspension, Meh SSL or go home, also get KYB shocks, we've have killed to many munroe shocks over the years, there quality has really gone downhill compared to 10 years ago, that or just put XYZ coil overs in, as for brakes, DBA T2s with some EBC Reds or QFM A1RM pads.

    8) interior, first, steam clean your seats, they are filthy, second, buy the new headunit already and get some stinger RCA set, might as well put them in at the same time, speaker grilles are annoying to install, go to the wreckers and just get a parcel shelf with them factory installed for like $20 bucks, looks neater and saves a headache of cutting the holes perfect to have them sit properly.

    9) and finally, what do you mean YOU are going to have to cut the whole stereo loom out and start again :p i'm pretty sure that I'm going to have to do that and make new termination connection blocks up behidn the dash with a loom extention to where we can actually plug the new headunit in neatly., also buy the new headunit already.
     
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    1 - I should hahaha! I like change too much. The ute was the best thing I've had though, but can't justify the loan again.

    2 - I have 3.7 LSD diff on the cards from the same builder as last time

    5 - I bought the rear main seal today :p

    6 - Foglights were needed. They look better and they're cheaper than the covers, even if they don't work for the time being. The bar on the other hand.. yeah one day it'll get looked into.

    7 - XYZ was on my mind but it's a temp list for now

    8 - The seats aren't that bad suprisingly lol. My speaker holes have already been cut from the knob who put in 6x9's before me (and only one works cuz they wired them both on one RCA lol). I was actually talking about the door cards, every door speaker grill has a massive chunk taken out. Usually you get one or maybe two little cracks, but they're all ####ed. Might just get new door cards, but for now it's a work in process

    9 - I can cut the whole loom and match it all myself, I just don't know how to pull back the dash that far back to get all the way back in the loom lol. I had to re-do the VT when i bought that and that was a huge mess too.. Not quite as bad though.




    Anyway for updates, I ordered new 02 Sensors and foglights as of last night which should be here later in the week.

    I fitted up my new cluster glass today and I am more than happy, it's SO clear compared to that stained old glass that was in there.

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    Well since I know everyone loves updates, I got these in the mail this week and I fitted up my foglights today:

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    I've also updated the first page... Which should all be done soonish!

    This weekend is planned to have the following changed:

    Short shifter
    Clutch
    Clutch slave cylinder
    Rear Main seal
    Rear extension housing seal
    Tailshaft centre bearing
    Rear swaybar bushes
    1.9 Roller rockers (if they arrive)

    It's all happening. I don't think I'm missing anything for the time being, but should be all good :)
     
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    Where's the inlet manifold gasket, rocker cover gaskets and valve springs? as i said why bother having to remove the rockers again to do the valve springs later along with new rocker cover gaskets again :p.

    Also you Forgot, Gearbox oil flush, clutch system flush and diff oil change from the list.

    Don't forget to bring the Jack Daniels and it better be cold :p
     
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    As discussed, don't need valve springs at the moment.

    I'm still undecided on the diff ratio, either get 3.46 and have it at 2350rpm @ 100kph or get 3.7 and have 2550rpm @ 100kph.

    Currently sits at 2100rpm at 100kph so not much higher..

    I'm actually leaning more towards 3.7s.

    Ended up picking up rocker cover gaskets and inlet manifold gaskets today, don't need to steal yours and replace them that way lol

    Picked up my supercharged headers today and just ordered the 200cpsi cats
     
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    Big Update;

    Today with my brother and a mate we replaced the following:

    New Bonnet struts
    Mace 1.9 Roller rockers
    New tail shaft centre bearing
    New Tailshaft rubber donut
    New Gearbox mounts
    New clutch + flywheel
    New gearbox slave cylinder
    Rear swaybar bushes (well half, we only got supplied one side so chasing seller on that one)
    Rear main seal

    Couldn't do the rear gearbox seal as we didn't have a 30mm socket in a hex to undo it so it'll have to be done at a later date.

    Car drives pretty smooth and better.



    LSD Diff and exhaust will be done later this week, Raptor charger ordered this week hopefully also :)
     
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    MOTHER ####ER RIGHT THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!, had to do my usual standard and get the angle grinder out for that ####er, took like 2 hours or so to replace that bitch, the bearing was fused with the tailshaft basically.
     
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    New Update for today:

    Super charged Pacemaker headers
    2 x 2.5" Hi-flow Venom cats with 4" bodies
    Custom 2.25" Twin exhaust with custom mounting brackets to keep it higher off the ground
    New Oxygen Sensors

    Gotta be honest, I thought it would be boggy down low having an exhaust too big for N/A V6, but it actually drives more than fine, and I was suprised how it actually sounded. Definitely worth the money, if you ever want to get anything done to go Barney at Hallam Performance. He did a great job on it and makes sure everything is perfect.

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    On another note, I was going to get a level 3 cluster and get the digital speedo + get the PPK values changed to suit the new diff, but instead I've decided to contact Phreddy/Greg @ ASR and get him to recolour my whole car aswell as do these things.

    While my ECU is getting reflashed via Tim at Raptor, I'll send up all my switches and cluster to Greg in NSW and get him to change all the colours to Blue, add in morphing needles and change on the cluster what I need since the car will be off the road anyway.

    I'm currently having trouble getting a hold of my Diff builder, but soon as I do i'll be going to pick that up. If he has a set of 3.73 ratio ready I'll take that, otherwise I'm sure 3.46 will be fine.
     
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    does sound decent for a 6, i was surprised, i was expecting it to sounds like a wet fart from a porn stars ass but sounds good even outside the car when its under load.

    Now you just need to get rid of those ugly ####ing rims.
     
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    Charger and diff first.. I'm currently bidding on a set of VT SS rims though, just for something to replace these for the time being.

    Later on i'll get something decent after I lower it.

    EDIT: Gotta be honest, the more I drive with this exhaust I'm liking it haha. Isn't rapsy, has a decently deep note.. Doesn't have seem to have lost power downlow due to the size either, but maybe the roller rockers and it being manual helps it out a bit.
     
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    I agree, more power in them also.

    But after going through costs, making the car able to take a healthy 12PSI everyday, internals would all be changed etc. Ends up being an extra 5-6K ontop of a charger setup.

    I'll save the turbo for the LSx times, get to try out both worlds ;)
     
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    Internals? Why? You can get a complete ecotec for about $7.50 off the side of the road. Maybe valve springs but not much more internals wise.

    Better still just grab a low km l67 bottom end throw an ecotec plenum on it - run 14psi all day. Find a good tuner and you shouldn't have any issues with the motor.

    This guy does pretty decent ecotec/l67 turbo kits.

    Cost wise though, depends. A new raptor kit costs what, 5k - with no intercooler setup. Looking at their website the base kit includes upgraded injectors but I can't see a fuel pump with the kit. Personally, I'd always run a rising rate fuel reg (more boost, more fuel) and a surge tank but that's just me. Nothing against raptor they're great kits and they stand by their products, but i'd be costing up some turbo setups before you make your choice. You'll make more power and the torque curve of a turbo car never gets old.

    Food for thought.

    Well yes, V6s are awful. V8 every time :p
     
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    If i was going to spend the money on a turbo, it would be a Garrett system through George at Proflow. I have had it all priced including tuning, fitment etc. Turbo cam, MLS Cometic head gaskets, etc etc. For what I wanted i couldn't justify 12-13K completely done.

    I could of got a cheap generic turbo, but I figured this time out I'd rather do the charger setup. Easier for myself to fit and understand, and just to try it out. Not to mention it's easy as to rip it back off and re-sell when it comes to upgrading.

    The turbo will come, but not on this car.


    EDIT: I thought about the L67 option, but they also have different heads and stuff on them. Then I gotta change wiring, remove motors and much more. I've been back and forth between both options but I've finally settled, actually going to order the Raptor VLLC kit today soon as Tim calls me back haha.
     
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    Fair enough, 12-13k all done with the above mentioned items seems like a damn good price to me. Tonys garage makes his kits for stock motors, works really well.
     
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    Yeah, he quoted me 10.5K to fit all my internal parts, fit the whole turbo setup, tune it and create a dump-back pipe for me. Then it was 2.5K for internals from Mace.
    Very cheap I agree. Just didn't have the funds to do it. Tony'z garage quoted me up on a system also, pricing almost the same but for a GT35 setup, which is a smaller turbo than the Garrett S I was quoted on from Pro-flow.

    In all honestly, I'm sure i'll be happy with the raptor setup anyway. Whenever the times comes to upgrade, I can pull it off and sell it all off, change my build diff into the new car, all that jazz.. Not thinking about that right now though, that'll be a while away.

    You'll have to take me for a ride in a real turbo car ;).
     

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