2006 ve vin locked out

[soleyacejnr]

i have brought a 2006 ve with a broken key barrel so i swapped out the the key and key housing ecu and the bcm out of a ve that has been written off and the radio is coming up with [security lockout active vehicle data mismatch] with the dash saying [vehicle immobilized refer to owners manual] i have it booked in to be looked at by an auto elc but his not confident he can fix the problem dose anyone have any ideas on how to resolve the problem or come across this bf on a 06 model

 

[Fu Manchu]

No no no.
You can’t do that.

There is so many modules on a VE.

You can’t swap just the ECM and BCM. It has to be all the modules. Everyone of them has to be VIN matched or a no start condition occurs.

It was VZ you could get a computer and key set for. VE is no where near that.

Put all you original stuff back in. Get a locksmith to come and set up a new key for you. The key has to have the transponder in the plastic.

A broken key blade just means you remove the key barrel and get it to a lock smith who can cut a key according to the pins in the barrel. Or you would change just the ignition key and the door with a new key blade that matches as well.

 

[Fu Manchu]

If you don’t wish to do those things, you will need a high end bi-directional scan tool and go through and perform the long and tedious task of matching up all the other 15 or what ever modules throughout the car with the VIN from the donor car that you got the ECM and BCM from. Then the car starts. It’s a shtshow of a job.

 

[soleyacejnr]

If you don’t wish to do those things, you will need a high end bi-directional scan tool and go through and perform the long and tedious task of matching up all the other 15 or what ever modules throughout the car with the VIN from the donor car that you got the ECM and BCM from. Then the car starts. It’s a shtshow of a job.

No no no.
You can’t do that.

There is so many modules on a VE.

You can’t swap just the ECM and BCM. It has to be all the modules. Everyone of them has to be VIN matched or a no start condition occurs.

It was VZ you could get a computer and key set for. VE is no where near that.

Put all you original stuff back in. Get a locksmith to come and set up a new key for you. The key has to have the transponder in the plastic.

A broken key blade just means you remove the key barrel and get it to a lock smith who can cut a key according to the pins in the barrel. Or you would change just the ignition key and the door with a new key blade that matches as well.

i apologies i didn't realize i forgot to mention this in my original post

but i brought the car ( car A ) when it was already in this mode

as the owner before me had lost the key

he decided to pull apart the key housing ( snaped the metal keeping it on the wheel )

and when i brought the car it came with the broken key housing sitting in the back of the car

and 2 BCM and 2 ECM witch at the time i didn't even know what they where

so at the moment i have 3 BCM and 3 ECM with 1 key housing with no key and 1 key housing with a key

i have marked the key housing and the BCM and the ECM that came out of the written off ve ( car B )

is there a way to can tell witch combination of the other 4 are the originals ones for ( car A )

and if so is am i able to use the key housing and key off the ve that was written off ( car B ) with the right BCM and ECM from ( car A )

or is there a list of all the modules ill need to swap from ( car B ) or what bi-directional scan tool will i need to buy to help find them

 

[soleyacejnr]

If you don’t wish to do those things, you will need a high end bi-directional scan tool and go through and perform the long and tedious task of matching up all the other 15 or what ever modules throughout the car with the VIN from the donor car that you got the ECM and BCM from. Then the car starts. It’s a shtshow of a job.

also sorry it was such a late reply i have just gotten home from work and didn't have time yesterday ( Thursday ) to reply

 

[DavesSV6Tonner]

Might be better off taking the car to someone with a Tech 2 and paying them to find which BCM and ECM match your car's VIN.
I'm not real tech savvy when it comes to electronics in cars but surely the ignition switch & key assy can be replaced without having to replace the ECM & BCM?

 

[Fu Manchu]

What you need to do is install the original ECM and BCM

You need the original key fob. It has an important transponder embedded in the plastic. That communicates to the key reader under the steering wheel.

Buy a new/replacement ignition barrel. A new replacement door lock barrel.

Or take the ignition barrel (original) to a locksmith who specialises in car keys. They will disassemble the barrel, get the key profile and cut a new key blade.

Problem sorted.

Getting a bi-directional scan tool that can reflash the multitude of modules throughout the cars computer network will be around $1000 once all the components are bought. Tech2 is the device used by Holden. There are others that can do it but they will likely have higher price tags.

Using the scan tool to perform module VIN matching takes a bit of skill and knowledge. Get it wrong and you could brick the car.

 

[Fu Manchu]

There are plenty of YouTube vids on disassembling a G8 or VE key.

Just don’t discard the original key fob with the transponder embedded in the plastic. That is a different thing to the removable circuit board inside.

 

[soleyacejnr]

There are plenty of YouTube vids on disassembling a G8 or VE key.

Just don’t discard the original key fob with the transponder embedded in the plastic. That is a different thing to the removable circuit board inside.

i don't have the original key fob as the owner bf me lost it and that's where the hole trouble started is there another way to get around not haveing the original key fob if i can figure out witch bcm and ecm is the original

 

[soleyacejnr]

Might be better off taking the car to someone with a Tech 2 and paying them to find which BCM and ECM match your car's VIN.
I'm not real tech savvy when it comes to electronics in cars but surely the ignition switch & key assy can be replaced without having to replace the ECM & BCM?

ill look into this option thank you