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2009 VE SS - "Contact Dealer - Stability Ctrl Off"

Discussion in 'VE Holden Commodore (2006 - 2013)' started by AFlanno, Oct 21, 2013.

  1. AFlanno

    AFlanno New Member

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    Hey guys,

    Got in the car this morning, turned on everything normal, did notice the petrol was low... No biggy, ill get petrol at lunch???

    As I arrived at work, the needle dropped and engine turned off leaving me to roll into a carpark..

    The dash is now displaying error: "Contact Dealer - Stability Ctrl Off"
    I took a quick vid of it here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/jsxdhchw270ugag/2013-10-21 08.20.14.mp4
    When I go to start the car, the head-unit loses power also, car wont start

    Any suggestions?

    edit: I did have it in reverse to push the car into the center of the park, that when I recorded it.

    UPDATE: Put 20L fuel in, still nothing - error still showing
    Unplugged battery for 10 minutes - error gone, ESP still showing as off
    Car still not starting, when I go to turn it over, the lights and radio etc all turn off until I stop trying to turn it over... Hopefully its just a battery.
    Had it toed to the dealership, just waiting on them to call me and tell me what the issue is.
     
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    Yes, sounds like a dead battery. Jump start the car and once it's running, check if the alternator is trying to charge the battery OK. If the alternator is charging, time for a new battery. In my experience, a weak battery can cause fault codes to be set, including the stability control, ESP and ABS.
     
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    HELLO!! just signed up for this forum so im new i have a black ve sv6 2007 i have exacly the same problem as this car wont even try to crank batterys not flatt already gharged batter to full and tryied to jump it at holden at the moment they have scanned it and they are saying they are having trouble conecting to the emc or something. did you end up finding a fix to youre problem?? any help would be amazing. also i jsut got a new engine put in 20 mins before this happend to me,
    engine has 116*** km on it and same thing it turned off and i roled to my house. but wont start now contact dealer abs light and stability controll is saying off.
     
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    hey have you found a solution to this problem my car is doing exactly the same thing a 2007 ve sv6 all same warning turned off and all everything exactly the same except mine happened after i just got a new engine put in this happen within 20 mins of leaving the place that did my engine. did you end up fixing your problem any help would be great and muchly appreciated i'm new to this forum first time on it so thanks guys and excuse my dumb questions witch im sure there will be plenty of them.
     
  5. ChRiDDa

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    Other common fault that can cause these symptoms is the rear abs loom - attaches to the sensors of both rear wheels and is connected near the fuel lines on the drivers side - about a $50 genuine replacement part
     
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    thank you so much i hope this is all it is. that would be great there does seem to be a mechanical kind of wining noise from the what seems to be coming fron the underside right under the rear middle set. holden are looking further into this.
     
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    Hey I have the same problem with a 2010 ve omega car wont turn over or do anything but say contact dealer did you end up getting your car going, I had a scan tool hooked up to it, said that the ecu not communicating with bcm not sure what to do should I try a new battery...
     
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    Nearly always caused by a crook battery.
     
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    hey guys I have the same problem with my g8 gt 6.0 car will not start abs and traction control lights on contact dealer fuel pumps disabled, I put in a brand new battery and checked all fuses still wont start, any updates?
     
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    It makes little difference to the systems on modern cars if the alternator is putting out sufficient charge. The only way to accurately test the condition of your battery is to have it LOAD TESTED. Such test will indicate if one or several of the cells are on 'the way out'. Any half decent Auto Electrician or if a member of an Auto Club, their Patrols have appropriate equipment to perform such test on the roadside.
     
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    Hi , my cars has this problem right now and was wundering how to fix it, any ideas be apprieciated
     
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    Had a Friend that had the same problem for his 2009 L76 VE Calais, he got caught out going to the airport,
    got it towed home, Replace the Alternator a couple of days later, charged the battery up over night,
    He returned from his holiday a few day later.
    Has never faulted since, I did tell him to replace the battery, but he hasn't as yet, but it still starts and driver perfectly.
    The Alternators are a common fault on VE's, so if you own a 2009 > 2011, say approx. 140,000 > 160,000 k/m
    Now is the time to change the Alternator, and if its the original battery, change that too.
    I have a 2012 L77 and its done 145,000 k/s and I change the battery last week,
    But I am also going to purchase a Alternator and have it on hand, because its getting near the time to change it.

    PS: Check to see what Codes it has created.
     
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    Yours could also be a Transmission switch fault ?
     
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    Just out of interest how tricky is it to change out the alternator in a VE 6litre? Would assume that you’d remove the main drive belt and take it out from the bottom?
     
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    Hopefully 2.5 years later #antec800 has got it sorted out.
    Would be interesting to hear what the resolution was though.......alas he/she was last seen here Sept 10, 2016. (coudn't resist it)
     
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    Actually its very easy, as follows
    Disconnect the battery
    Disconnect the MAF plug
    Take off the Air Intake hose [2 x hose clamps ]
    Remove the Belt [ take a photo of how its installed first ] ;)
    Remove the Positive terminal that's on left tower [ behind the air box, other wise you WONT be able to remove the air box ]
    [one nut at the bottom of it ]
    Remove the Air Box [2 or 3 x torx screws ]
    [This now gives you a heap of room to work, and lift the alternator out]
    Remove the Power steering pump from the bracket, and let it lay to the front/side with out leaking fluid [2 or 3 bolts]
    Unplug the alternator
    Remove the bolt for the support bracket at the rear/back of the alternator [ 1 x bolt ]
    Remove the Alternator [RED] Battery Cable.
    Remove the bolts at the front of the alternator, and slide them out while supporting the alternator [2 x bolts]
    You should be able to lift it out through the top.

    Hint: When re-fitting the new one, loosen the alternator bracket from the engine, this will make it easier to re-fit the bolts for re-assembling it.
    As soon as you get the alternator mounted, tighten the Alternator Bracket bolt
    Then tighten the Actual Alternator Bolts [ 2 bolts ]
    Refit the RED Battery Cable on the Back, and make sure its sitting correctly on the terminal when you tight the Nut up.
    Re-assembling is the reverse of above [being generous with times, and not rushing it]
    Removal is approx. 45 min
    Re-assemble is approx. 45 min
    Hint: Check all the bolts twice, you would hate to miss one.
     
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    Cheers mate pretty simple indeed and I don’t need to worry about the air box either in my case as mine has an otr :)
     
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