2020 Vauxhall Insignia spotted testing

[StrayKiwi]

https://www.carbuyer.co.uk/news/169081/2020-vauxhall-insignia-spotted-testing

So there is a 2020 model in the works. Whether it will be offered down under by Holden is another matter entirely.

 

[Pablito]

It will be. I posted about it a few weeks back. Holden exec said series 2 is coming with only the diesel variant confirmed dumped at this stage. Also said they are selling enough to make it worth while. Also said a non GM sourced vehicle has been chosen to replace ZB after the series 2.

 

[StrayKiwi]

Also said a non GM sourced vehicle has been chosen to replace ZB after the series 2.

My bet is on a rebadged Peugeot 508. I saw one parked across the road from my house a week ago and it looks more or less the same size as the ZB. I struggle to see how such a large vehicle can be powered by a 1.6L petrol turbo four (167kw & 300nm), but it is. Other than the engine, price and spec wise it's very close.

 

[Calaber]

It will be. I posted about it a few weeks back. Holden exec said series 2 is coming with only the diesel variant confirmed dumped at this stage. Also said they are selling enough to make it worth while. Also said a non GM sourced vehicle has been chosen to replace ZB after the series 2.

If the facelifted ZB is ultimately replaced by a non GM vehicle, any vestige of the original GM Holden heritage will vanish completely. What's the point of prolonging the Holden name with increasingly irrelevant vehicles that owe absolutely nothing to that heritage, honestly?

 

[wetwork65]

My bet is on a rebadged Peugeot 508. I saw one parked across the road from my house a week ago and it looks more or less the same size as the ZB. I struggle to see how such a large vehicle can be powered by a 1.6L petrol turbo four (167kw & 300nm), but it is. Other than the engine, price and spec wise it's very close.

Is my reading correct that a 1.2 litre 3 cylinder is likely to be offered in this car, according to this article?
Doesn't matter how much technology or transmission tricks are applied, it won't be fun to drive.
Makes the 1.6 litre PHEV sound exciting at 6.5 s to 100 km/h.

 

[Badgerdog]

Is my reading correct that a 1.2 litre 3 cylinder is likely to be offered in this car, according to this article?
Doesn't matter how much technology or transmission tricks are applied, it won't be fun to drive.
Makes the 1.6 litre PHEV sound exciting at 6.5 s to 100 km/h.

I think such a small engine is most unlikely and that journalist is engaging in some pretty "creative licence" type, mindless ?, speculation.
A PHEV version would likely provide better than 0-100 in 6.5 seconds as that's the figure for their heavier SUV.
If it is forthcoming 296 horsepower and all the torque a PHEV has could be interesting but much will depend upon how much weight the system adds to the car.

 

[wetwork65]

I think such a small engine is most unlikely and that journalist is engaging in some pretty "creative licence" type, mindless ?, speculation.
A PHEV version would likely provide better than 0-100 in 6.5 seconds as that's the figure for their heavier SUV.
If it is forthcoming 296 horsepower and all the torque a PHEV has could be interesting but much will depend upon how much weight the system adds to the car.

Wouldn't put it past them.
They would market this stuff in the UK on the basis of low fuel usage and green virtual signalling but realistically the reverse and inherent driver frustration happens.
Reminds me of the dangerously underpowered, small capacity engined Escorts, Lasers, Austin's, even Holden Sunturds and Commodores in NZ in the past.

 

[Suami]

If the facelifted ZB is ultimately replaced by a non GM vehicle, any vestige of the original GM Holden heritage will vanish completely. What's the point of prolonging the Holden name with increasingly irrelevant vehicles that owe absolutely nothing to that heritage, honestly?

Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy that I decided to buy the last of the V8 2017 Redlines....knew this would happen to Holden.

 

[commodore665]

Looks decidedly French , not a bad thing as far as styling goes , as for reliability not so much

 

[StrayKiwi]

What's the point of prolonging the Holden name with increasingly irrelevant vehicles that owe absolutely nothing to that heritage, honestly?

There is no point, but based on Holden's insular sense of self preservation that has been driving their business decisions over the past few years, I'm sure they'll think of some way to spin it.