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247kw? expected or what??

kingyinperth

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Gtfo..about $3 per plug US if that postage of US$8.95 applies to Australia...fuggen cheap alright!

any issues with holden if still under warranty?(im guessing probably...)
 

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any issues with holden if still under warranty?(im guessing probably...)
Good question, I think it is technically a non-Holden part, so yes.
Even though NGK is the OEM for AC Delco branded stock Iridiums, same spec as TR55 in copper. NGK makes most of the AC plugs. Honeywell (Autolite) also makes plugs for AC-Delco.
According to NGK you should select one heat range colder for every 75-100 hp you add, or when you significantly raise compression. They also suggest to retard the timing a little and to increase fuel enrichment and octane. So I did, like most performance tuners and G8 guys do and while it is by no means anything like a screw in hp adder it really made a difference in my car to cold starting and smooth power delivery without detonation causing knock retard.
Having said that if it ain't broke... etc., the stock Ir plugs in the L77 are unbelievably good, all eight of mine were still perfect nick after 120,000k.
I would wait until you have some issue or are making 280-300rwkW before changing plug index, and I'm fairly certain it could be argued different plugs would affect the warranty.
 

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Good question, I think it is technically a non-Holden part, so yes.
Even though NGK is the OEM for AC Delco branded stock Iridiums, same spec as TR55 in copper. NGK makes most of the AC plugs. Honeywell (Autolite) also makes plugs for AC-Delco.
According to NGK you should select one heat range colder for every 75-100 hp you add, or when you significantly raise compression. They also suggest to retard the timing a little and to increase fuel enrichment and octane. So I did, like most performance tuners and G8 guys do and while it is by no means anything like a screw in hp adder it really made a difference in my car to cold starting and smooth power delivery without detonation causing knock retard.
Having said that if it ain't broke... etc., the stock Ir plugs in the L77 are unbelievably good, all eight of mine were still perfect nick after 120,000k.
I would wait until you have some issue or are making 280-300rwkW before changing plug index, and I'm fairly certain it could be argued different plugs would affect the warranty.
Unless it's way out there I highly doubt they'd bounce you for non OEM plugs. That said, once they figure out you have non standard tune (aka the moment they plug in a tech2) your drivetrain warranty is history.
 

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Yeh fair enough,not worth my while with low k's,mild mods and good long lasting plugs in it as pointed out..cheers tho,they sound appealing for those in more km travelled VE's.

Speaking of warranty,and I know off track a bit more even so apologies it will be my last tangent(today at least)...thoughts on extended holden warranty..any benefit on the resale side of things or just good money down the drain essentially ..REAPER,PIR4TE ?
 

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Tough decision, but close to 100,000k in the saddle and a whole lot of reading and conversations with knowledgable people led me to forego the risk-averse insurance bet. I decided to spend the cash hotting her up a bit instead.
Now at 145,000, going harder than ever, my problem is I can't find a good excuse to pull the heads, drop the trans or swap out something because it all works much more reliably and better than I expected.
YMMV
 

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Yep,i hear ya..thanks for the input...guess if I do it I will do it soon so that the expense isn't too close to changeover of the car as I am very likely to sell it within about 12 mths of normal warranty expiring.So for me it would be more "possible" appeal to the next buyer and a smaller % for 12 odd months of peace of mind,sooo may not be worth it for me either.Aint cheap the last time I looked!
Anyways ,wont clog up the thread any more back to the kilowatts chase......:smoking:
 

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Hey,
ve ss 6.0lt otr, pacemakers 4-1, twin 3" X-force, 100 cell cats, no mid muff,,, re-tune buy REPARABLE (ha, right!) tuner!
smoked by 5.7 with pacemakers and 2.5 exhaust!
[email protected]#K!!!!
Found our local Guru (after quite a bit of 'heart ache')... ya cars ****!.......GREAT!...NOT.
I booked it in for 15000 service and re-tune to see what was what.
Good news "your cars not [email protected]#Ked"!.... Just waisted your $ with a BIG NAME company, It's go no torque at all, Stock pick up. **** TUNE.
He got it from what it was to 284 rwkw, then backed it down to 276 and raised the bottom end torque.
SHAME AND BALME????
the BIG NAME orignal exhaust, then they passed on to the BIG NAME tuner (with a suggested CASH in envelope payment) method!... [email protected]#K I feel raped by these fools!
WE LIVE AND WE LEARN
 

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Working 3 Jobs for a while, Hands bleeding hahahaha.... No time for [email protected]#K wits crap! (not u guys)
...Dreaming of my next mod, Cam booking (tentative) in two weeks.
Please :idea3: what cam......??????
every fortnight i do a 5 hr hi way drive (averaging 9ish lt/100 km)
otherwise, it's a Freak'n V8 Toy, love it!
....if you were me, what!? research is getting me know where, Lad at the shop said "BIG ONE" after I asked him?????????????? he's a cool lad and it was a quick question by me so??? reckon he may be just goosing around.....
Sounds good but
 

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I have got a headache. What the fark was all that about??????
 

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LOL....that was interesting reading,but have not much clue either...
 

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Working 3 Jobs for a while, Hands bleeding hahahaha.... No time for [email protected]#K wits crap! (not u guys)
...Dreaming of my next mod, Cam booking (tentative) in two weeks.
Please :idea3: what cam......??????
every fortnight i do a 5 hr hi way drive (averaging 9ish lt/100 km)
otherwise, it's a Freak'n V8 Toy, love it!
....if you were me, what!? research is getting me know where, Lad at the shop said "BIG ONE" after I asked him?????????????? he's a cool lad and it was a quick question by me so??? reckon he may be just goosing around.....
Sounds good but
Go BIG ONE, but not too BIG. Stay off the GAS too bro, that way you won't get smoked.:fewl:
 

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ok,
Kook (lazy person) [email protected]#ked with my car and rooted it (made it not go good)
Car was ****, New man made it better!
Car is ok now.
I want to make it better.
I like street car feel , and don't want radical (big) petrol bills.
I think I explained the mods so far.
Question:-
What size cam would suit current mods?
....Take a Pill Ian, you'll be ok by morning.
feels like I'm talking to japs!
 

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Nihonjin wa tanjun ni, sensei ga anata o kinshi suru!
You want torque with your wagon weight, not kw chase. Low 20s duration, high lift (.600) 112 LSA.
Beware most people will say the opposite, point them to Rick Crawford, the fastest NA VE/G8/VF.
 

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bugger it. can't seen to add a pic. I either delete what I had written or some stupid **** comes up (as above)
 

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Don't create new broken posts, just select existing stuffed post, press edit and delete file name [ img] here between markup flags [/img ], and instead post the url to image on hosted service.
You need to upload to hosting service as this forum doesn't host stuff.
 

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Yorky, I just did a cam 2 weeks ago. Already had bolt ons and tuned and a dyno dynamics spat out 277rwkw bout 6 months ago. Did the cam elsewhere and their pre dyno run on a mainline said 262rwkw. Did the cam and it jumped to 318rwkw with 505 foot pounds. Very strong down low and pulls hard past 6000. Cam size is......wait for it.....212/220 580 lift 115 lsa.

Smaller is better in my book !
 

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Thanks Foggsy,
how does it sound?
Also mate, what did you mean it pulls hard past 6000. When you add a cam does the rev limiter change (forgive my ignorance hahaha)
It's all fun.
cheers
 

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Big peak rwkw for a smallish cam...
Any chance of been able to post a dyno sheet?

I see your in the hills, who do you have doing the work?
 
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