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3.9 or 4.11 gears in an Auto 4spd?

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Hey guys, sorry to make a new thread but I cant find any straight information about the type of gears that would work in an 4spd Auto VY II Calais L37, can anyone give me any information about what gears I should purchase?, I'm trying to get a real pokey launch without sitting at 2300rpm at 100kmh, I've been informed to get either 3.9 or 4.11. I've been told to get 4.11s because a 3.9 won't be enough, but I've also read that 3.9 is enough. I'm at a loss on what to get haha, I'm also not trying to get a totally awful fuel economy.

Any tips would be greatly appreciated
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3.7 would be the max you would wanna go with a 4 speed auto because even that is a massive jump from the stock 3.08, if u go with 3.9s or heaven forbid 4.11 it will be revving it’s guts out at cruising speeds and chewing thru fuel you will just end up hating it.... just for an example my old vr club sport with a 5 speed manual had the same 3.08 gears as standard and I changed it to 3.45 and that was quite a significant difference in pickup etc probably wouldn’t have wanted to go much higher
 

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I’ve got 3.9’s and don’t even notice it driving on the freeway. 4.11’s aren’t much different. Revs at around 2300-2400

They don’t go through any more fuel either. The extra mechanical advantage means that the engine isn’t working as hard, even though it’s revving a little higher (sees less load).

Traction does become an issue in first and auto shift points will change. I preferred the shift points with 3.07 because it would drop down to 2nd at 100kmph, but now only drops to 3rd. But acceleration is better overall from a standing start.
 

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3.7 would be the max you would wanna go with a 4 speed auto because even that is a massive jump from the stock 3.08, if u go with 3.9s or heaven forbid 4.11 it will be revving it’s guts out at cruising speeds and chewing thru fuel you will just end up hating it.... just for an example my old vr club sport with a 5 speed manual had the same 3.08 gears as standard and I changed it to 3.45 and that was quite a significant difference in pickup etc probably wouldn’t have wanted to go much higher
So I dare not get a 3.9 setup?, the bloke that replied earlier says it's fine, I just can't get a straight answer haha.
 

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I’ve got 3.9’s and don’t even notice it driving on the freeway. 4.11’s aren’t much different. Revs at around 2300-2400

They don’t go through any more fuel either. The extra mechanical advantage means that the engine isn’t working as hard, even though it’s revving a little higher (sees less load).

Traction does become an issue in first and auto shift points will change. I preferred the shift points with 3.07 because it would drop down to 2nd at 100kmph, but now only drops to 3rd. But acceleration is better overall from a standing start.
Loss of traction is fun when wanted. Would you recommend a 3.7 setup?
 

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So I dare not get a 3.9 setup?, the bloke that replied earlier says it's fine, I just can't get a straight answer haha.
Always the way mate, one mans undriveable is another mans perfect if you get what I’m saying I personally would stick to 3.7 myself but it’s your car at the end of the day
 

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Personally prefer 3.9-4.11shorter gears...very little difference in revs

3.7 for lots of highway driving if people are really worried about it,3.46 if on tight budget from manual car.

3.0-3.4-3.7-3.9 gears available m80 diffs
4.11 mainly for smaller m75/m78 diffs

Shorter diff gears & higher stall convertor/shift kit is what you really want for better launches...tradeoff being use more fuel & quickly get used to it,v6 in heavy car
 

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Personally prefer 3.9-4.11shorter gears...very little difference in revs

3.7 for lots of highway driving if people are really worried about it,3.46 if on tight budget from manual car.

3.0-3.4-3.7-3.9 gears available m80 diffs
4.11 mainly for smaller m75/m78 diffs

Shorter diff gears & higher stall convertor/shift kit is what you really want for better launches...tradeoff being use more fuel & quickly get used to it,v6 in heavy car

Cheers for the tips mate, How high would my rpm sit on 100kmh with 3.9-4.11?
 

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Always the way mate, one mans undriveable is another mans perfect if you get what I’m saying I personally would stick to 3.7 myself but it’s your car at the end of the day

Cheers mate, I'm probably gonna go with a 3.7 setup as if I got a 3.9-4.11 I'd go though fuel much faster than I'd like, and at $1.40 a liter that's not ideal haha
 

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Cheers mate, I'm probably gonna go with a 3.7 setup as if I got a 3.9-4.11 I'd go though fuel much faster than I'd like, and at $1.40 a liter that's not ideal haha
You won’t use more fuel. Read my post above.

You’d be lucky to find a 3.7, 3.9 or 4.11 centre at a good price. If buying new budget $1800-2000.

Got 2 cars. One 3.08 revs at 1750 at 100kmph. The other has 3.9’s and revs at 2300. Both are silent at 100kmph with no drone but are both v8’s with resonators. I can understand the drone of a 6 becoming annoying with shorter diff gears.
 
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