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30 Holden dealers to close dec 17

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It was always going to happen, and there will be more to follow.
Looks like there will be a lot of car salespeople without jobs.
 

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It was always going to happen, and there will be more to follow.
Looks like there will be a lot of car salespeople without jobs.
Most of them should try parliament for a new job
 

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A couple were touted recently. Suttons Waitara. A biggie. Holds NSW dealers licence no.1 (or it did...).

If GM offloads Holden to PSA, and PSA wants to rationalise its purchase of Opel/Vauxhall, there will be precisely zero Holden dealers left.
 

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Seriously, how many Camaros would sell? They'd be overly expensive and only a niche seller at best. Holden needs a volume model and nothing in their current or proposed range will fill that spot.

They're pushing the Colorado but it's running behind the Ranger and Hilux month after month. Nothing even comes close to the Commodore's numbers and the NG won't do it either.

They need a vehicle that is clearly superior to its competitors, in the right market sector at the right price, to ensure volume sales. What have they got?

You are correct of course. People ought to look at the sales figures on Camaros. They cannot even move 100000 units pa in the entire US (72,705 nationally in 2016) and national Canada sales where they only have to truck the cars across the border in ex factory left hand drive configuration were a pitiful at 2707 units in 2016. Yet the Camaros are relatively inexpensive products there.
Here are GMs own figures.................
http://gmauthority.com/blog/gm/chevrolet/camaro/chevrolet-camaro-sales-numbers/

GM would have a very good idea of the numbers of vehicles they could expect to move in RHD markets were they to tool up for this and, thus, whether it would be a profitable venture or a loss maker.

The sales here would be minimal once the initial flurry of enthusiast orders were satisfied, in part, because they would be relatively expensive. The production costs for RHD drive have to be covered, you have sizeable transportation costs across the US and then overseas, and a very unfavourable USD to AUD exchange rate running against your pricing. It gets worse when you hit the luxury car tax threshold.

You also have a large segment of the market that can afford the cars who regard US vehicles (and Aust built vehicles for that matter) as rubbish when compared to the wide variety of expensive European counterparts available here and won't buy them.

Since GM is flogging off their entire Opel and Vauxhaul operations in Europe to the PSA Group, I wonder how much longer GM Holden will be sustained here now that local manufacturing is being terminated.
http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/...s/news/us/en/2017/mar/0306-opel-vauxhall.html
 

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The Big 4 made their money in the 90s by selling big, cheap cars to mostly fleets, but families too. Thats why Hyundai, Mazda and Toyota are going well globally - they sell large volumes of cars, focusing on turnover. When local makers lost the fleet orders, they effectively lost the plot.

Even if a RHD Camaro made it here, it would be priced around the Mustang's price point (50k and up) and as such it would be priced beyond the average punter. And yes, for $50k there are arguably other better offers for those who like cars and are into driving. Unless its for salary sacrifice, fleets won't be interested.
 
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