Abit of misinformation.. The time recorded in the Xr6 was with the 6 speed ZF. So there goes your argument. 0-100km/hr 210kw Sv6 6.4 seconds 190kw Xr6 6.8 seconds Lib 5.96 seconds Fuel economy: Falcon: 13.7L SV6: 13.4L Liberty GT: 13.3: Braking 100km/h-0. Falcon: 41.5 meters SV6: 38.4 Liberty: 38.2 Anyway, as I already agreed in another thread, they are pretty much the same. Even mentioned here before I started trollin karlos that they were pretty similiar.