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40k roadworthy and not happy

Discussion in 'VY Holden Commodore (2002 - 2004)' started by GoBaggers, Jan 20, 2006.

  1. GoBaggers

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    Just sold the car, so i'm getting a roadworthy done. Car has done 39500kms and not hard driving, although it is city driving so brakes do get used a bit. Take it to local holden service center for roadworthy and get a call an hour later saying the front brakes are fine, but rear inner pads need replacing as well as disks as they are apparently scourned (showing oysters is the word he used). So i say, i'm not happy with that can i ask how much is left on the pads exactly? He says 3mm. I reply that's legal, you aren't obliged to replace 3mm pads to approve a roadworthy. He gets shitty and tells me to quieten down whilst he explains the full situation, yeah ok mate bullsh#t bullsh#t lay it on me (i must have woodduck tattooed on my forehead). He says if i take it to a backyard roadworthy joint they might approve it but they are reputable blah blah, i said mate i'm not a dummy you can approve 3mm and you're within the law. He says well you'll have to tell the bloke who's buying your car you only have 3mm on the rear inners, i said mate i dont have to do anything at all, and that's not your problem anyway so please just stick to giving a legal roadworthy and nothing more.

    I feel like i'm getting stiffed, the car's a VYII 2004, virtually brand new in every other way. I know brakes are wear and tear but 3mm is fine to leave isn't it? 45k service coming up, i'd have though you'd replace the rear inners then.

    Any opinions? Am i in the wrong thinking they just want to jip me out of an additional $275 or is 40k about all you get from rear inner brake pads and discs?
     
  2. Shounak

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    You're getting shafted.. A female friend of mine was getting a RWC on her car.. The mechanic said he wouldn't give it, because the tyres didn't have enough tread on them..

    The RACV test before she got it said there was 4mm of tread on it.. The mechanic was insisting that she buy the tyres from him..

    I told her to tell him to go f*ck himself and to tell him that she knows the legal limit is 2.5mm.. No yelling, no screaming, she got her RWC..

    Simple as that..
     
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    Doesn't matter how thick the pads are..As long as it passes the Brake test in NSW..I got mine down here, and the mechanic down here showed me like i had 1mm left, and he told me as long as it passed the brake test its fine..But change them soon...
     
  4. GoBaggers

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    I rang them, spoke to the manager who incidently has a real chip on his shoulder and gave me THE CUSTOMER real attitude for questioning the need to replace pads that have 3mm on a roadworthy. He backed off reluctantly, but then harped on about the discs which are apparently 'scolloped' and need machining. Highly unusual i thought.

    Oh and when i said i'm not happy about having to pay for this roadworthy he said come get the car i want nothing to do with it and hung up. Manager's name is Glenn, place is BOORAN HOLDEN service center in glenhuntly rd (melbourne), I'd seriously recommend people NOT go to this place, they are in my opinion more than keen to 'create' work for your car wherever they see fit. Real professional from the MANAGER to hang up on a client, given i was polite the whole time and was only posing questions and totally valid one's at that.
     
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    Speak to the Dealer Principle...Was he the Manager of the service department?
    If no answer from Dealer Principle, take up the matter with Holden themselves. They frown on delaers when crap like that happens....If this was me, by the time I would be finished with them, they would hate me...Don't leave it at this. Chances are your not the only one it has happened to.
     
  6. sc0pe

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    i think your getting all upset over nothing.

    they have done nothing wrong, and by the sounds of it your just being a difficult customer.
     
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    just get the pads and discs machined. it isn't gonna cost the end of the world. but if u dont want to... take it somewhere else. its all different when ur getting a rwc to sell it and getting one for yourself. there more picky when the cars getting sold. whereas yourself they'd probably give it to you and say you'll need to change ur pads soon
     
  8. Shounak

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    Why spend $200 (at least) for the pads and machining when it's not required?
     
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    Favourite Brake Story.

    I have a VS S2 V6 Manual (as well as a VY S2 V6 Manual).

    My local dealer started telling me that I needed new pads at 70,000 Km.

    I replaced them myself at 110,000 Km, and they still had pad material left.
     
  10. GoBaggers

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    If 'difficult' means i'm not prepared to pay for legally roadworthy brake pads to be replaced unneccessarily to get a roadworthy, then yeah i guess i'm difficult.

    Was real funny when after i told him a 3mm brake pad was roadworthy he said yeah well we're not gonna roadworthy the car till you machine the discs. Car brakes perfectly and major service is due at 45,000km anyway. The bloke's a ripoff merchant tool.
     
  11. GoBaggers

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    *UPDATE*

    This is hilarious - I just got the roadworthy done by a reputable business and he reports that the rear brake pads are only half worn...HALF BLOODY WORN!!!!

    And the discs are NOT 'scolloped' like the guy at booran said either. They have some rotor grooving, but none more than usual for a car that passes roadworthy condition.

    My guy even reckons the brakes should last another 20k or 30k if it is driven like i have driven it till now.

    Yet booran holden of glenhuntly rd refused to roadworthy my car because of my rear brake pads and discs. Excuse my french but unfukinbelievable.

    Can you believe this? If you were me would you take it further, with written complaints to dealer principle?
     
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    I certainly would buddy..
     
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    No point. You got your RWC done cheaper elsewhere, what else are you hoping to achieve?

    The dealer principle is the one who sets performance targets, no? So he'll be the main reason these guys wanted to charge you for unneccessary work anyway.

    I reckon your letter will be ignored. Wasted effort.
     
  14. GoBaggers

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    I suspect this too. Is there an independent body that handles this sort of thing? Consumer affairs? Ombudsmen?
     
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    Maybe, but from my understanding of it you weren't out of pocket any extra $$, so what 'damages' are you trying to recover?

    I think the best thing you can do is to avoid doing business with these people in future, tell your friends not to go there either, and get on with life.
     
  16. GoBaggers

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    It's unlikely i will do much business with them anyway, as i'm buying a chrysler 300c srt8 (ducks the punch). Always a holden man at heart though. I'm more looking to make others aware of their business practises so they dont get ripped like i almost was.
     
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    in this case its a rip off. but anyway if they were as worn as the first guy said isn't the RWC tto say that the car is raodworthy for another 12 months ? if they were that low it wouldn't be.

    beats me we don't have that just a rego check before its due to renew.
     
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    A roadworthy is valid for a limited period of time, not for a whole twelve months! The reason you have to get a RWC when selling the car is to certify that the safety requirements have been met within that period of time prior to the sale of the vehicle. I'ts not a guarantee for the next year. The mechanic is responsible for ensuring the car meets the specified minimum requirements, not his own standards, whatever his reason.
    I had a similar experience with another workshop a couple of years ago; I felt that the mech was hoping I'd say "oh, ok, just fix it then" as I'm sure some people do. I just took my car, payed the fee and went somewhere else. Never been back and I'm happy enough with that.
     
  19. GoBaggers

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    this is more or less what i told the guy when he said (after i told him anything above 1mm is legally roadworthy) 'ohh oh, then, err, you'll have to tell the person buying the car your brake pads only have 3mm', i said i dont have to do anything of the sort pal, i've brought the car in to you for a roadworthy if the brakepads are roadworthy then bloody roadworthy them, end of story. I didn't know at the time that the brake pads were in fact a lot healthier than the 3mm he was claiming.

    Dodgy bastards.
     
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    do you have Oficce Of Fair Trading down there..... try a google search for it.... even see your member for parlament both state and federal.... contact Courier Mail newspaper.... try 7.30 Report on TV..... or try others....
     

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