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6 million dollar pot bust

Discussion in 'The Pub' started by VLDavo, Mar 8, 2008.

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  1. VL_5SPEED

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    Defend pot? I give you the correct facts backed up by sources what you most likely did not read. As for side affects, yep there is side affects. I don't even smoke anymore due to some of the side affects. Safest illegal drug??? Yep. Safest legal drug??? It is up there. Does it have medical values??? Yes. Can it be used for non drug related things??? Yes, clothes, textiles oil etc.

    And since you just generalized pot smokers into one category how about I generalize drinkers into one category. So In other words would you rather have someone stoned walking around looking like a spaced out deadbeat or someone drunk walking around picking fights with anyone for anything?
     
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    it has alot of less side affects then alot of legal drugs ..

    and yes smoking causes lung cancer

    and booze slowly cooks your vital organs and kills off your brain cells

    but in reality i would rather be a space cadet then a drunken moron but im neither so meh..

    and i know more people who smoke just weed and i mean just weed no spinner or mixing it and they hold down very succesful jobs and have there wits around em and ive met alot of older people who have been smoking it for many years and they seem fine...
     
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    mahaha VL_5speed u beat me to it
     
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    I wouldn't get upset if they made booze and smokes illegal either.

    I have seen more people i know, turn to **** from smoking weed than alcohol or ciggys. Sure, weed, ciggys and booze are all bad, they all do bad things in their own ways, but i have seen people get sent to jail, drop half their body weight, steal, rob, assault and stay unemployed because of weed. Turns some people into drug dealers too so they can support their habits.

    Half my old mates smoke weed, hence why i don't hang around them anymore. Gee, was such great fun watching them all smoke cones and stare at the ****ing TV eating food on a friday night FUN TIMES!!! :rolleyes:

    Weed turns people into dopey schitzophrenic dead****s IMO. But alcohol can do the same, but generally, if you are a total ****head when you are drunk, you were probably a ****head before you were drunk, the alcohol just enhanced it a bit.

    And for ciggarettes. I'm not gonna defend ciggys at all. They cause lung cancer, they smell and the list goes on. I say ban ciggys too.
     
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    i hate pot and i don't smoke it.

    but that shouldn't be the criteria for prohibiting it. the fact is, prohibition just makes things worse. there is an assumption that after you criminalise something, that's as much as you can do to address the problem. it's not true at all, laws are just tools for incentivising efficient behaviour. like any tool, if you use it in a dumb fashion you won't get a good result. banning weed is a pretty good example of that.
     
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    u described a speed freek to a T lol.... they would have been on other substances other then just weed have dramatic changes in body weight and go off the walls and rob people ..

    not defending it and not saying it didnt happen but theres more to the story then just weed..
     
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    Sorry mate, but he doesn't do any kind of methamphetamine at all. He doesn't like pills, speed, ice or any kind of amphetamines / methamphetamines. I know how to tell someone is on speed or ice, i was an ice addict for 3 years from 2000 - 2003. Plus i used to be heavily involved in the Melbourne rave scene doing partys and promotions. It's not a new or weird thing for me to know what someone on amphetamines or methamphetamines looks like. I have done every drug i can think of bar DMT and heroin. I know how to tell apart someone on speed and someone who is a conehead.


    He has been smoking that rancid **** for about 9 years now. For him, being stoned is a normal feeling and being straight feels different. It's because he spends too much money on weed and can't afford food, and when he does eat, he eats **** food, and he eats at the wrong times.
     
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    Prolonged abuse of any substance will cause complications, i.e. trans fats, thc, nicotine, caffine, alcohol etc etc. The long term affects would probably be characterised by the level of abuse. Heavy pot users and heavy alcoholics are very similar although I'd argue that heavy alcohol use has greater affects than heavy pot use. I think low use of alcohol probably causes less risk than low pot usage.

    Not defending it, just think that if you go around saying alcohol abuse has no effects either you probably also have your head in the sand.


    Abuse any drug and accept the consequences.
     
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    If this same person was heavily addicted to Alcohol to the same extent would he be doing the same thing?
     
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    How do you mean "doing the same thing"? If he was a ****head, it would bring out the ******** that's already in him. He would be ****ed either way. When i say "mate" i don't mean friend. I just couldn't be assed explaining the whole life story on how i met him etc. I use the term "mate" very loosely.
     
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    ever noticed how bongheads never say 'do you want a cone?'. they say it 'oi maaaan, wannaaa caaaaaarrrnnee?'
     
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    ROFL!!!


    "Ey, hook us up a caaaaarrrrrrrrrne bruz"
     
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    outta personal preference i would rather be a smoker or a hard core drinker than a stoner. smoking and drinking will kill u quicker. but iv got plentey of family members and friends that have smoked pot and have been off it for years and u can still see the damage its done to them. u should try having a conversation with them its almost like their in a world of there own all tha time, another thing i notice is they are very slow talk really doppy. no one here is gonna make me think different because iv seen it ruin ppls lives. i was a heavy drinker for 5 years dont do it now prob have 2 beers a week if that. if you ever met me u wld not even know i was heavy drinker. from my experence it does not take that long before you start seeing a change in a person when they start smoking pot.
     
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    I agree that there is more of a drastic long term after effect from weed as opposed to alcohol.

    Smoking ciggarettes, i wouldn't categorise with those 2 things in that sense, i'll admit, i still have the occasional ciggy, but i don't smoke everyday like i used to. I have managed to have the odd one or two every week for about 6 months now, eventually, i won't even have the one or two. It's a disgusting habit and i hate it, but i am happy to have gone from a pack a day to one or two a week. It's the worst thing i ever did (starting smoking).
     
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    Hahahaha this is hilarious reading yours posts. What a load of crap :) I don't care what you have "seen". I dont care that troy711 generalizes stoners into bogans. I believe in science not what a bunch of randoms who have probably never tried it have to say. Pot does not have long term affects on the brain, it never has and it never will. Albert Einstein was a massive stoner. The main side affects what I got from weed was short term memory loss which was after 2 years of smoking weed 3-4 times a week. I haven't smoked in about a month and my memory is back to normal. Good day :)
     
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    Hahaha, i always love your posts, everyone gets a reaction, it's great :yeah:


    See, your an idiot mate, if you believe in science, why has science told us that THC causes schitzophrenia in long term use, yet you say it has no long term effects? Maybe you should slow down on the cones ;)

    Well done mate, your a genius :thumbsup: I'm glad i never got into smoking weed, i'd probably turn out like you. :whistling I heard that smoking weed causes forumers to crack it, not care what people say and get angry over something that was said on a forum too :p

    Smoking 3 -4 times a week is **** all compared to what alot of people smoke. Get off your high horse (emphasis on the word "high") and think about what you are posting before you post it.
     
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    Show me some scientific evidence that weed can cause schizophrenia. Oh wait, there is no scientific evidence :)

    I just said the side affects what I got from weed. Why would I want to be a drug abuser and smoke daily????? Not only would it be expensive but also bad for your health. Abuse weed and your memory goes to ****, abuse alcohol and your memory also goes to ****, abuse sugar and you get diabetes. All drugs have side affects. Good day :) No point posting again as this is getting no where.
     
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    Studies link marijuana use with schizophrenia


    That's one page out of about 1,790,000 results i got for the words marijuana and schizophrenia.

    I don't expect a reply though because this is going nowhere :) Don't say things like: "there is no evidence" when there are clearly thousands of links on the internet about it. You just make yourself look like a stooge. :)

    Now YOU show me some evidence Albert Einstein was a stoner......
     
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    Oh yeh, if you have psychosis or schizophrenia in your genes then weed can bring it on. How many people smoke? How many people have schizophrenia from smoking? It doesn't matter to me anyway as I no longer smoke. I don't enjoy it anymore.
     
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    I thought you weren't replying?


    So where is the evidence Albert Einstein was a stoner?

    And no, people are alot more likely to develop schizophrenia if they smoke weed, nothing to do with genetics. THC along with many other drugs can cause chemical changes in the brain affecting receptors and causing grey areas. This can effect mood, energy levels and emotion.

    Another good example of chemical changes in the brain due to drug use, is ice. And don't ****ing tell me it doesn't i had 3 ex mates who were admitted into psych wards back in early 2003 from heavy ice use, it was one of the scariest things i have ever seen in my life, and is what made me quit my ice habit. Ice can cause severe psychosis. Prescription meds like Valium can also cause chemical changes in the brain as well with long term use.

    THC (tetrahydrocannbanol) can do the same thing to one's brain, just not as fast as heavy ice use can and maybe not as severe straight away.
     
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