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AFM L76 lifter rattle when cold WTF?

Discussion in 'VE Holden Commodore (2006 - 2013)' started by OldDog, Jun 15, 2010.

  1. HUX 90

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    You could write a letter to holden or contact consumer protection and explain the problem and I'm sure they would be able to help you with getting parts replaced or a new engine but I think that the time that'll be wasted taking the car back and forth to the dealer and writing letters, phone calls, emails etc it would probably be more benificial to get an aftermarket cam and lifters and get a bit more power out of the engine. I agree with you that holden should fix the problem since it's a manufacturing fault but the likelyness of it happening is nill.
     
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    OD,

    I had another inspection done today with the holden rep. Their current position is that they wont do any work on mine unless it gets much worse (as I have a brand new engine - installed Nov2010) as they say it could result in other problems.

    If the guy (Performance shop) at Dubbo can correct the problem without going over the top (as you say there is plenty of power now) see if he would be willing to workout a fixed cost as he is likely to get some repeat business from other owners... Heck I would consider taking my car to dubbo if it surely gets rid of it... Or if you provide the brand of parts used...

    Cheers
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    sucks to hear about these problems guys a few people on other forums are having the same problems i was actually thinking about getting a ve but dunno now hope you get it all sorted though
     
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    well I certainly wont be buying another one... Maybe the VF's new V8 will be better?
     
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    Yeah theres another thread going on over in the LS1 forum too. L76 Lifter issue (AFM) [Archive] - Australian LS1 and Holden Forums

    HEXEM i'm sure your optimism is right but i won't be gambling my hard earned on that, i'd rather work on getting this one right, then at least i know what i got.
     
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    Not only that one, there are plenty of others. Some have said they solved the AFM lifter issue my deativating the AFM function (using tuning software) and changing out all the lifters and replacing them with LS7 lifters. I did enquire about this but the part number used to purchase them was not in the holden spares computer system.

    I'll try and dig up that post and get the part number quoted...
     
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    Mite be faulty oil filters witch drain out over night instead of holding oil.when you start in morning you get rattle until filter is full .have had that happen on early engines before
     
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    G'day Brod, yah though of that one but usually the lifters rattle from that straight away. This is a bit odd in that the lifters don't rattle straight away but about 30 seconds after start up.
     
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    Oil filter can't drain of oil as it sits at the bottom of the engine beside the sump. It remains full of oil at all times. Unlike some other engines which the oil filter sits on the side of the block allowing oil to drain back into the sump..
     
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    So just to update this a bit, i've sent off a letter via registered post to Holden stating the issues i have. Lets see where we go from here. You'll have to excuse methough, i'm a bit of an optimist :)
     
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    Nothing wrong with being on optimist mate. Let us know what the response is, mabey we should all start sending letters off about this issue.
     
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    engine noise

    All the alloy chev engines make these noises Difference is that the old cast iron blocks absorbed the internal noises. Now with cast alloy blocks The alloy amplifies the noises with in. Hence the reason why holden puts the big ugly plastic engine covers on them to absorb and reflect the noise
     
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    OldDog,

    Any update mate on the letter and resolve from Holden to fix (or replace) your engine?

    Cheers
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    Not as yet Phil, i'd like to think they are "considering their response". As soon as i hear something i'll be sure to post it up, and i'm hoping that it will be something positive too.

    Cheers

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    Fair enough... The video you posted of your engine noise, that is currently how it sounds yeah?
     
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    That was taken before they fixed it the first time, but its now back to that level again. Same noise, same symptoms etc
     
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    So has Holden (your local dealer) said they are going to still fix the current problem again and what course of action are they taking this time? Or have things gone the other way hence the letter to the GM of Holden.

    Cheers
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    Phil, talking to the service manager at Holden he wants me to bring it down when the DSM is there and let him hear it and reccomend a repair. Basically the same as last time ie i leave the car in the workshop overnight then first thing the next morning they start it up, the DSM will say "Oh it has a rattling lefter" and they will offer to replace it. Problem is that if it didn't work last time then i doubt it'll work this time. Call me crazy but i'm wondering if its a problem with the block, lifter bores in particular or maybe an oil gallery?
     
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    Interesting. Just had a call from the dealer in Dubbo, they have some engineer type people coming up after the June long weekend to look t it so the car is booked in for Tuesday 14th for them to inspect it and they are giving me a rental car to get home in. I assume it will stay there until fixed.
     
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    Lets hope its a positive outcome.
     

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