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Discussion in 'VR - VS Holden Commodore (1993 - 1997)' started by gsmrobinson, Jan 29, 2004.

  1. evBenji

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    thanks but if its leaked/lost gas would that mean somethings busted and the gas will just leak again

    im a mechanic's labourer but he cant be bothered looking at it lol

    ive checked all my fuses and tried other relays

    ive read it could be an o-ring, where are they located

    if i start engine, then turn air con on, then run to compressor what am i supposed to be seeing (i figure the compressor spins with belt no matter what)

    and theres some gadget between the wipers that might be faulty?
     
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    immortality Home of the smoky breakfast Bacon! Staff Member

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    All AC systems seem to loose their gas over time. Don't know why? Our old VS was the same, aircon got less and less. One day I took it to some outfit, they vacuum tested the system and it was fine, re-gassed it and it was 100% after that.

    I just bought a one of these http://www.coolkiwi.net.nz/store/p48/DIY_Air_Conditioning_Recharge_Starter_Kit.html I'm going to top up the AC in the missus VX as it's not working as well as it used too either.
     
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    I wish that was the problem with mine.

    Last summer the coldness got less and less. Took it the local a/c joint and had it regassed with the dye and they said it wasn't holding the pressure well.

    Worked okay for a couple of weeks and then back to the way it was.

    The a/c joint checked for dye leaks which were showing up at numerous places in the system. End result, system is fubared with a quote of ~$1300 to fix.

    Much sad :(
     
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    Wtf it could only be a list of 4 or 5 things surely

    Could u get a second opinion

    Or a heap of parts from a wreckers

    Leaks surely come from the orings. Cant be too many places it could leak from?
     
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    How much to do the aircond fan?
    I know the dash has to come out.
     
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    I am facing the same issue in my new VS SS that i got the other week. Fan won't go at any setting. Relay, Fuses and Resistor are all good. Only option is to get the blower unit out from under the dash. Do a search on here, there was a post about how to do it without removing the dash.

    Sounds like it is a pain in the arse but do-able.
     
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    Thanks I`ve read it.
    My aircond guy is older so don`t do them anymore
    I`m going to get quotes this week.
     
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    One issue is probably in the evaporator given they quoted that much.
     
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    Just towed a one tonne empty tall furniture trailer from kangaroo Island to Mildura, and the aircon packed it in on the first hour. Compressor doesn't seem to be engaging, so guessing it's out of gas. Driving at 2200rpm in 3rd most of the day probably didn't help. Any other likely heat related causes?

    Edit :is working again this morning. Does the computer shut down the aircon if the engine bay is too hot?
     
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    Blower had to be reconditioned aftermarket part sent was VT so no good.
    They had a short cut too no full dash removable.
    $770 all up.
     
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    Is the shortcut well known?? My aircon is not existent and until I spend the bucks and get it assessed it could be any number of issues like your's was. Was your's not blowing any air at all, not even warm air?
     
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    Is it possible to get one of these or something similar in Aust? My air is not working and no doubt it most likely has multiple issues. If I could give it a regas myself for the summer that would be great. Everywhere around here want $250 to regas it without doing any repairs and it will all leak out by the end of summer. Mine apparently has some gas in the system but not much. My clutch could be worn as it spins without much resistance. I noticed the receiver/dryer is really old possibly original. At a guess I'm at $400 before I do much to it at all.
     
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    Not sure TBH. Google is your friend.
     
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    And how did you know how much as to add? I found it on Amazon but not sure if I can get it delivered to Tasmania or not. Reading on here blokes getting regas for under $100 bucks???? Is that still the case anywhere surely that price was back in 1990??
     
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    Priced up a OEX receiver/drier at Repco; $8.72. I was like WTF??? Last time I bought one for an old car I owned it was over 100 bucks. Now to find someone who can regas it at a decent price, under $250 would be nice. Think with the things that could go wrong I most likely won't attempt a regas myself as it will be too hard to evacuate the old gas and moisture.
     
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    Good news, just found a bloke near work who will pressure test mine. Regas and receiver/drier around $150. Said mine might have a leaking compressor seal as apparently that's the most common issue with them. But that means a new compressor. Although mine has a small amount of pressure since the clutch activates, which hopefully means a fairly cheap repair.
     
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    If the leak is slow it will most likely be the compressor. Unfortunately it s not economical to repair the oring in the compressor.
     
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    Out of this list what would be the most likely leak, considering I still have a small amount of gas still in the system, compressor???
     

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