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Alternatives to the ZB

Discussion in 'ZB Holden Commodore (2018)' started by uz3r, Sep 26, 2018.

  1. uz3r

    uz3r Member

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    If we assume that Holden is abandoning the V8 market as it appears they are and if we assume their 'Commodore' is now focused only on the mid-large value and luxury sedan market - what are the alternative/competing cars?

    Whats the alternative for the person who wants a good value bang for buck sedan? Whats the alternative for the person who wants a luxury/saloon sedan? How do their price points compare to the ZB for each alternative? It is just a Mazda and a Toyota? Or is there more?

    I'll be in the market to replace my current V6 commodore in the next year so I wanted to hear your guys thoughts.
     
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    Mazda, Toyota and Subaru Liberty?
    Price wise, there was a thread earlier on in the year that by memory showed the ZB was expensive compared to it's competitors.
     
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    Skoda? New Mazda. Liberty or Levorg? Camry in the V6. Volvo if you can handle all the buttons. Stinger :)

    None of these have an engine like the ZB for the money. Camry SX comes closest in my book but i thought the tech on the ZB was better. New Mazda 6 and the rest are significantly more expensive for the same or worse performance. Liberty is cvt i think .......
     
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    Is this from the value perspective or luxury perspective?

    I really like the look of the Polestars - I've never considered a Volvo but maybe I should

    Sounds like some disagreement on price - others say more expensive, some less. Im interested in the luxury side, I've always thought the Calais was a pretty good price for its features and performance - I've never been aware of competitors at the same price point
     
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    Well, here's the listed pricing for some family sized cars. Not all sedans but something to compare with anyway.

    Top spec Camry V6 224kw - $49k drive away
    Top spec Mazda 3 - $40k drive away
    Top spec Mazda 6 2.5L turbo - $53k drive away
    Top spec Mazda CX5 - $52k drive away
    Top spec Subaru Liberty V6 - $48k drive away

    ZB VXR - $60,895 drive away
    ZB Calais V - $56,695 drive away

    VXR is way over priced in my opinion.
    The Calais V for about 52 or a bit less would be a good buy I reckon.

    *These prices are from dealer websites
     
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    Just had a look on Carsales and Calais V's in stock with a few Ks on them are already listed for 52/53k with some dealers.
     
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    Maybe this will be like the Adventra, which was released at too high a price, then had a cashback to previous buyers when the price dropped. They never really sold well (despite me buying an LX8 and loving it for 7 ).
    Maybe this will be like the Adventra, which was initially released in 2003 at too high a price, then Holden gave a cashback to previous buyers when the price dropped. Unfortunately, they never really sold well (despite me buying an LX8 and loving it for 7 years).
     
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    The other issue with the Adventra when it was released was no V6 option straight away.
     
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    I think the fact that Ford went to the trouble of developing a "proper" SUV type vehicle, which was really what punters wanted, rather than a full-on off roader as the Adventure was, also put paid to it. Territory was Car of the Year in 2004, the Adventra was nowhere. Like them or loathe them, that was when the SUV craze really started to take off and it's still growing. I think the Adventra was just the wrong car for its time.
     
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    Correct Calaber - if there was a newer Adventra, I would buy it in a heartbeat! But there wouldn't be, because I am unlike most of the car buying public.
     
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