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Discussion in 'VR - VS Holden Commodore (1993 - 1997)' started by VNCommyBeast, Jan 29, 2011.

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    Rattling noise, most of the time, every now and again it won't make the noise. Appears to be coming from where the engine and the gearbox connect (automatic).
    Rattling gets faster as i rev the engine, in park or in gear.
    Has anyone else had this and knows what's going on? Appears to be different then what everyone elses noises are on here.
    Thanks
     
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    It could be either the flex plate loose/busted or the balance shaft bearing worn. Both are in the location you mention and both are not un-common in high mileage VR/VS's. Has the gearbox been removed lately?
     
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    hi mate, you seem to know exactly what i'm talking about. yes it's just had a brand new gear box put in and has made the noise since. so what is this flex plate? i'll look at that first, could there be a missing cover or something? i can see something spinning around, i think it's the flywheel, there's a big hole and you can see right up there. and that's where the noise comes from
     
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    yep... you can,

    the starter motor has a opening to the flywheel/flexplate/driveplate,

    you can see in and see the health of your tread...

    to do it you need to remove the passengerside headers, spark plugs, jack the side of the car up and use car stands please, its a must... remove air pipe and pretty much just unbolt the starter motor (will have 3 bolts)then unwire it...

    after all that grab a torch and look in on your flywheel...mine old vs had a fair bit of wear on it

    give me a pm if u need more detailed instructions
     
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    Cool, thanks so much for that, I should be good from your description there. Get on that tomorrow if it's not raining. I'll chuck some photos up since i don't know what a worn one would like
     
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    sounds like the torque converter lower cover is missing on your car, you shouldnt be able to see the ringgear/flywheel or torque converter by just looking under the car, there should be a cover there between the motor and box
     
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    welcome.....good luck
     
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    lol and skin off the knuckles....lol
     
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    so i took some photos, does this help at all? i'll get working on removing starter motor if this is no good
     

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    did you remove something to be able to see the torque converter?(blue thing) or was it like this since its come out of the shop. I ask as you shouldnt be able to see it like that, there should be a cover over that section
     
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    yea that's what i was thinking, previous owner changed the gearbox on it and i was thinking maybe he forgot to put that cover back on. and then i thought maybe a stone went up there or something and is rattling around lol. so then, what do you reckon now?
     
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    maybe take it to a gearbox shop, ask them what they think, and also ask them which part you need from the wreckers to replace that missing peice. Anyone on here have any other suggestions for VNCOMMY?
     
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    thanks, yea might just have to do that. i'll still try get to the flywheel, see if we can get some definate sort of a thing there then look in to that cover
     
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    k so i got the starter motor out, didn't seem like much. flywheel was in real solid, didn't budge at all. got some photos if anyone can see any thing from them?
     

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