or 3. work for a company that has contracts for the mines =P (not that i am interested in going over there) also people dont see the pun? thread about the mines, being dug up =P
you clearly dont know of ACM,they get the greenest of muppets around and throw them in a truck, if they look fit and look like there keen to give it a go they will be a nipper, most will be on service crew within a year, others will be truck drivers for life, and the rest get 6 months experience and move on to i higher paying job. dont know if the rest of the industry is the same but from what ive seen, really easy to get on the trucks
Here's my 2 tips. Get some cash and do your generics and have patience. mines like to take thier time. also DO NOT PISS OF THE MINES UNTILL YOU HAVE GOTTEN IN I managed to piss of Santos Mining while I was a power pole inspector, now Santos and Fluor will not even consider me even though there was a position available and I had all the the qualifications.
Cant agree enough that its not what you know its who you know and what you can be for them. Last year after finishing up in engineering in a company that was going down hill I took my contacts book with me when i left. 6 weeks before I was 'retired' I flew to perth and backpacked west coast with ex gf before dumping her.... set up to visit all the support companies that worked with mining looking for work and found more jobs similar to what I had with a dead end and most of them were full with massive crowds wanting in on them. went direct to the mines, here I am hire me, ill do whatever. Got told your not what we're looking for, heres you NO answer, take it, everyone who's telling you dont take no for an answer is a f****ad. Didnt give up when I got back to SA.... set up another thread on here about getting hired... 8 weeks later set off to the east coast hoping to use all the above advice to get into the mines. Walked in, tried to work for their contractors.... found a tiny trickle of temp work.... in most mining towns the best I ever got was tending the bars a few times and being a construction labourer. Without a HR most places didnt wanna touch me, everywhere that had open jobs or were hiring people I'd arrive there and get the same response, oh your australian.... do you have a degree in any field? what you want a non skilled position? yeah sorry. Then the indian guy next to you who cant speak english gets hired. So after doing this all up and down the east coast came back to adelaide with broken ribs after a car crash...... after recovering started contracting again, worked for this guy who ran a solar panel business here, he tells me about life in gladstone when he was there and how it use to be easy money there, up until 2009 he ran a mining firm up there...... like everyone else. People like us were able to go up there and strike it rich after paying our dues..... and these days you cant, unless you were at his level of it or knew someone who would cut you in...... you cant get in the front door and all the businesses take advantage of all of us kids looking for a way in. When the chinese started getting involved he cashed out and came to SA. So pretty much ive ended up back here volunteering most of my time with the CFS, my captain is my engineering mentor and our AC works in the mines, has that magical 2 weeks on 2 weeks off FIFO position. He's got a geology degree and got offered it after having 8 years experience in the field.... laughs everytime someone says how easy those jobs are to get. He's pretty much told me my easiest way in is to up my security and IT qualifications (which ive done / doing), spoken to his mine..... once im at certificate 4 in risk management plus my IT cert III they are interested in me for security positions and risk assessor positions. Pay level for those is 55k on site. Not quite the massive amounts you hear about, but for an honest job thats pretty honest pay.
Yeah I have heard of them, but fortunately most of the sites I have been on are owner operator and avoid hiring contract muppets!
He is right. But if he only scored that after 8 years then he is doing something wrong, or didn't start off in mining from graduation. At the moment, the only way one will walk into a mining job with zero contacts is with a geology or mining engineering degree. But that is a minimum 3 year slog for geology and 4 years for mining engineering. If you are tertiary qualified in mining related disciplines you can basically pick and choose at the moment (i'm in central malaysia doing the pit designs for an open cut mine) but due to the downturn at the moment unskilled or semi skilled is getting harder to get.
contract mining is where the moneys at (underground anyways). Work for a underground contractor like byrnecut, barminco, pyba, downer or maccas on a development job you will earn a **** load more cash then working for a client. Jumbo operators for example on a single heading decline job for a contractor in qld you will earn up around $260 000 -$300 000 a year on a 2 and 1 rooster going rates about $1300 a shift plus bonus if they are paying bonus. Working for a client be lucky to get $1000 bucks a shift.
If you have facebook then like this page and you will be flooded with mining jobs from all over Australia https://www.facebook.com/jobsinmining
it was 8 years for him to get FIFO..... it was a year for him to get a job in the mines..... no one wanted to take him in without experience so he did placement for extra qualifications and hardly any pay, then got offered a job there and it wasnt FIFO he had to live in a sinkhole on 900 a week. Like everyone says when your a single male its not that bad.
It's hard t get in now, it's on the downturn. People already in are cruising for a few years, but companies aren't hiring unless you are experienced. Most of the work is short term or on contract (lower pay, worse conditions). Oil and Gas is the new thing. Source: My brother started with no experience about 9 years ago, doing crap jobs all over WA until getting full time at argyle. Many of his friends got in and my uncle had been in iron for 20 years. My brother left mining to work for chevron oil and gas and a 9-5 job in the city. His mate still works for a contract company (actually doing officework/contracts up there FiFo) Point is there's a lot of already skilled workers in abundance right now, no easy way to get in. It's either contracts (edit: as in being hired through a contractor company not ans a mining co employee - meaning crappier accommodation and pay benefits) or they expect you to relocate as they are being tight these days, the boom is over.
hey how ya going juiceie vh sle u sed, if ya interested in working here i could get ya a few numbers of labour hire companys just send me a pm. can u please send me those numbers mate thats would be greats thanks
Mate the money being made from guys "In the Mines" is often misunderstood. Most of the work is not in "mining" itself, but in the construction of the Processing plants & Facilities for mines. To get into construction you need tickets or a Trade. Or if you want to get into a mine as a Mine worker you need to get all of your tickets first, these may cost you thousands of dollars, but will get you a job earning a lot. The thing is you need experience to get a job. You need a job to get a job.......
And you referenced this from where? The mining boom ended???????????????? The mining Boom may have slowed due to GFC but has not, and will not stop possibly in your life time........China is still revving up and where you have growth you need steel, and to make steel you need Iron Ore, who has the largest amount of Iron Ore? Australia. Currently in Australia there are more Mines being built than the Australian Workforce can build..... The Gorgon Project in WA is a 50 Billion dollar construction project, the biggest in Australian History. You would be hard pressed to find a cleaner(Peggy) earning less than 120K Labourers are earning $150K minimum Basically the pay rates start at $150K It has changed, yes, but honestly the pay has not come down. There were some crazy bonuses in the 80's but your bargan basment worker working for a Mining Company is still earning $100K +
Cleaners where I work are on around 80k, my BHP salary package on 2/1 roster is base wage of 154k with up to 10% bonus (production excavator op).
Really depends on what you want to do on a mine site, you're young get some experience get some tickets and keep asking around. Experienced can be gained in other places as well. I've worked in 2 metallurgical laboratories in Adelaide for the past 8 years and have gained plenty of knowledge and contacts from sites all over the world. Some facts i have been told. Ex. Prominent hill 1. Start on 70k 2. Within 2 years you should max out @ 110k 3. There is a big waiting list for "friends of friends" trying to do exactly the same as you. 4. These guys look for people with Lab experience rather than your average Joe Dirt (pun) Keep in mind these figures are for working in a lab with chemicals and minerals. Not outside.
