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Any way to check difference between 2017 ssv and ssv redline?

Discussion in 'VF Holden Commodore (2013 - 2017)' started by Roha, May 1, 2019.

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  1. Roha

    Roha New Member

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    Hello, fellow Commodore enthusiasts!!

    I tried to search for this topic but couldn't find what I was looking for so decided to start my first post. Any advice/help would be much appreciated.

    The question is:

    What's the best way to check whether the car I'm buying is a real ssv redline? Let's say the dealer is trying to trick me into selling an ss or ssv as a redline. Is there any way I could visibly check, say the VIN or other parts of the car to see that it's actually a redline???

    I've read that the redlines come with 275 tires in the rear. So I thought of taking a tape measure and actually measuring the rear wheels just to make sure! lol.
    Also, as far as I know, only the redline comes with brembo brakes?? But what if they took a regular ss or ssv and just added aftermarket brembos?? Would there be any other way to confirm that it is indeed a real ssv redline???

    Any thought or advice would be much appreciated.

    Thank you all~~!!
     
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    Pretty sure they dropped the ssv for 2017. I might be wrong?

    2017 redline has brembos, sunroof, Bose audio, ssv embroided on the passenger side dash, 19 inch redline wheels, mylink background is red instead of blue, not sure what else
     
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    Yes if it’s an MY2017, there was no non-Redline SSV.
    If it’s got the gear Monty lists (no Bose or sunroof if wagon), it’s a Redline.
     
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    Build plate would have suspension as FE3 for a Redline? FE2 for SS or SSV - well I think that would be the case. There was no SSV in 2017, just SS and SSV Redline, but 2017 SS did get some of 2016 SSV spec (wheels come to mind).
     
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    No need for a tape measure as all the info you need on the tyre specs including width is marked on the tyre wall.

    Which dealer South Korea is selling you the car?
     
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    I'm keen for a pic of the car at a South Korean dealership.
     
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    Get the vin off the dealer & check with Holden. If you could be bothered, getting sold the wrong car and having proof may work out in your favour.
     
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    The VIN number will also have a letter "H" at position 10 for the 2017 model. The Sequence number will also be in the L3XXXXX range.

    SSV redline will also be a letter 'E' at position 5 but they is shared with SSV and SSV Redline.
     
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    Good info, but it doesn't help the OP to clarify if he has a redline over a standard tarted-up SS/SSV. Unless there is a different number/letter in the sequence for a 2017 SS (2017 - no SSV) and a 2017 redline?
     
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    If he has a sequence number in the L3XXXXX range and letter "E", then it's a redline in the MY17 model. There were no SSV models in 2017.
    SS was letter "C" as the config.
     
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    ok so C at position 5 (assuming L3xx sequence) is a base 2017 SS and E at position 5 is a SSVR?

    Do you happen to know what M at position 5 denotes?
     
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    Yes. Your car type. Senator
     
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    Thankyou, I thought it may have denoted Calais - being the car it is based on
     
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    Many years ago that might of been the case but now HSV had their model prefix in the VIN.
     
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    Yeah, you used to have to quote an exact VIN to HSV to see if it were a real HSV, but not you can "decode" the VIN prefix without needing the whole number. Well, at least to check it's an HSV VIN. :)

    Spent quite some time many moons ago trying to prove that a Calais-based VL HSV with full Batmobile mechanicals but no rear-wing treatment was a fake, VIN said it was just a Calais after all! Turned out to be one of 5 Calais-based cars they had fitted the full Walky gear to, I think for some favoured dealers (as opposed to the SV88 which was Calais based but just used a near-standard carby 5.0).
     
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    I ordered a Clubsport in 1995 and it arrived ready for me to pickup at the dealers looking like a standard VS Commodore.

    The front bar, rear wing, side skits, seats, rims, exterior badges and the Clubsport build number badge for the dashpad all arrived packed in boxes.

    The only HSV gear on the car was the instrument gauges with the HSV logo, the build plate on the firewall behind the throttle body intake, a HSV cold air intake and the engine cover had 185 on the sides.

    Everyone who ever looked at it believed it was just a HSV Enhanced VS Commodore but it was in fact in the HSV documentation as a fully-fledged Clubsport.

    Oh for the days when the manufacturers were still prepared to customise and delivered a car to your own requested specs.

    Any way it was easy to verify what it was as a call to HSV gave you the answer.




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    Mate, you guys are all bloody legends!
    Thanks for all the info and help!!
    The fact that only redlines were produced for the MY17 year makes the check very easy.

    Also, as a side note. There are no Holden dealers or importers over here in Korea. Chevrolet is very popular but we don't get the SS. We get the camaro but doesn't even come in manual!!!
    I'm returning to Australia soon and there's only one car I wanna buy, hence the original post~ lol

    Once again, thanks to everyone who gave input! It's little things like this that make me miss Australia the most!
     
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    Oh you actually are in South Korea..!? And here I was thinking you were removing the urine.... ;)
     
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    If looking for a 2017 redline make sure it is a 2017 and not a 2016 that the dealer is selling.

    I’ve seen quite a few 2016 build plate Redlines advertised as 2017 models as they were first registered in 2017.
    Very obvious to notice as they don’t have the black out pack.
    I’d be more worried about paying 2017 prices for a 2016 model that a dealer tarting up an SS to near redline specs.
    I have noticed the 2017 commanding more money than a comparable 2016.
     

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