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Anyone actually seen a VE in the flesh?

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VX_KN079 said:
Never said a production car used it in the US or Europe. All I said was that it has been used in both Europe and the US.

You did say or imply first though and also these comments:

Wrong. The VE is based on the GM Zeta platform which hasn't been designed or engineered in Australia at all...........Wrong

Zeta has been in European cars for years...........Wrong


Plus unecessary defamatory comments added in your posts.


VE Commodore will be the first production car to use the Zeta Platform anywhere.

Concepts and Prototypes, well a modified VZ body fitted to the platform and tested by Holden in July/Aug/Sept 2003 is then the first full car to use it.
Test mules using the platform were being tested in early 2003. Holden set up the final tooling for the platform in Sept 2004.

The only European car to use the platform was the Prototype Opel Insignia.
Holden shipped a platform to Germany where Opel fitted a handbuilt Insignia body to it. This body cost $3million to produce and was the first public showing of a car with the Zeta platform in September 2004. Motoring Journalists were able to test drive the car but it was speed limited to just 40km/h.
The Insignia has now been shelved indefinitely.
No other European brand has used the platform at all.

The Camaro concept car was also handbuilt and fitted to a platform shipped from Australia in early 2005. The car was able to move under it's own power but could not truly be driven as such. Bob Lutz idled it on to stage in January 2006 at the Detroit motor show.

These are documented details from many sources including directly from GM North America and Holden. This "****" is easy to locate.

So the real answer is the VZ Commodore was the first complete car to use the Zeta Platform under VX_KN079's rules , hopefully ending this debate.
 
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shiatan said:
Just to clarify, there was no offence intended to all the other government employees, just the idiot ones.

P.S. yeah, those comaro's rock, i think they're a korean knock-off of the ones chevrolet make.................and they used the zeta too, before anyone else.
i like that, im gonna make that my signature, that will actually be my first ever signature :)
 

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VX_KN079 on numerous occasions you've gone off at people (once you said that I and other people "make stupid comments") in the "What not to put in the VE" thread, and you've gone off many other times before. I thought that every single JC member comes on here to discuss things, give advice, and ask for advice, in a friendly manner, but you my friend seem to be here to go off at people aswell as to discuss things. Going off at people isn't really getting you anywhere, so try not get so agro. You can correct people without putting them down. By the way I'm not trying to be an arsehole or anything.
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buddyforu said:
Wrong again!! Cadillac does not have ANY cars in its current line-up that use the Zeta platform, although it plans to release a new coupe (incidently called the Cadillac ULS due for release in 2007) built on a "premiumized" version of the new Zeta platform that'll also underpin the 2007 Buick Velite, Pontiac G8, and GTO. The Current Cadillac STS uses the Sigma platform.

*waits even more patiently for more proof that Zeta is used in a current GM vehicle* :whistling :

First of all, how can I be "wrong again" about something I only posted about once? Fair enough if I'm wrong, I was goin off memory. Secondly, rather than gettin agro and sarcastic, why don't you all just provide the necessary proof/information and be done with it? No, I didn't provide any proof with what I said, but I'm happy to be proven wrong, unlike so many of you obviously
 

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Sorry mate, the 'wrong again' wasn't directed at you, it was at someone else who is presently driving half the forum insane. You're right, I shouldn't have made that post so snappy. If I could email you a cold stubby I would!!
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Given that most of what you're saying here is un-official, please tell me (and the rest of the forum) where the hell you're getting your info...
 
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buddyforu said:
it was at someone else who is presently driving half the forum insane

But that's ok it's only the stupid, ignorant morons that are going insane... No need to worry. They're already wasting oxygen so no point worrying if they keep doing it once they're insane.

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Yeah....

So anyway, I saw 5 of what I expect were VE's driving East on the Sturt Highway betweeen Balranald and Hay last weekend. Each semed to be a different model, ie SS, GTS, whatever as each had different mags and two had twhat was very similar to the current SS model side air-ducts.

I have some very poor pics on my mobile phone (a bit far away, they were) I'm just about to try and email them to my computer from my phone and see how that goes.

They were escorted by a current crewman and an Sv6. One was towing a big box trailer, probably a mobile workshop or something...

Anyway, I thought I'd just try and get the thread back on topic.

Stand-By...
 

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VX_KN079 said:
Given that most of what you're saying here is un-official, please tell me (and the rest of the forum) where the hell you're getting your info...

Last post here as it is pointless.
I have informed from where the info was sourced previously.
Links were posted. Find the info at GM Worldwide, Holden, GM North America, Inside GM, Autoweek, Bob Lutz himself (interview scripts) and many others.
Where are your own links to the claims you have made?

I will not be involved further in this pointless rubbish as the thread goes too far off track, as was pointed out to me.
You have made some good posts in various threads but you seem intent on being rude or attempting to belittle others if members do not agree with you.
It is immature behaviour, nothing more, and belittles only yourself.
I hope you continue with the good posts and stop with the foolish "extra" comments.

Cheers
 

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Here goes...
 

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