Tad melodramatic I think "Australia going down the drain" because some hospitals don't allow filming of birth. Parents still have the right to film their child's birth, just not in certain hospitals, here are plenty of other options of parents are gung ho to film this event. What about people's right to go to work without having to worry about having a camera shoved in their face? I know I for one work terribly when I have people watching over my shoulder and if I was subjected to being video taped I certainly wouldn't be at my best. Surely any parent would want the obstetricians/midwives to be focused 100% on their patients not the pain in the arse father with the camera. I think a blanket ban is not necessary and it should be done on a case by case basis with the permission of caregivers present in the delivery suite.
I can't understand people demanding to be able to do this like its their god given right. I would love to see my son's first day at school in a week would love to see how he interacts in his class why not just turn up with a video camera and film it for memories, I mean the teacher shouldn't mind if she was teaching properly and has nothing to hide? I can't believe how precious people are being over this, giving birth or watcing birth is not something you are going to forget anyway. Its a bit like your wedding day, it may be nice to have a video but some churches don't allow filming in he church so you put up with it or go elsewhere, you get over it. This is hardly new anyway, when I was pregnant 12 yrs ago many hospitals didn't allow filming and had even stricter policies in the delivery suites, if anything a lot of hospitals have relaxed a lot of 'rules'.
I completely understand what your saying Julie, however, see soop's quote below:
Hama wasn't saying Aus is going down the drain due to this one thing. Its a combination of things that is slowly eating away at this country. THIS being the least of our worries.
Exactly. +1
Replying to Julie:
I understand that it comes down to a hospital to hospital base, I understand about churches requesting no photos (although I have never seen a blanket ban on cameras at a ceremony. If it is a direct request from the couple getting married then fine, because the day is about them, and they call the shots).
The issue I have is that our right to decide as citizens on many many more things than just this particular issue at hand, are slowly being taken away from us. As people become more picky, more intolerant of other people, then we will soon not have any decision making left to us. Our whole life will be consumed with abiding by rules, regulations, being over mindful/(aka excessive political correctness) of other people's feelings/opinions....Australia is collapsing inwards, losing it's spark and losing it's initial freedom of individuality.
If things like this continue on, we will be like sheep, brainwashed, zombie, lifeless sheep being led by the shepherd that is the face of socialism, racism, political correctness, and outright control.
- Now that may be a tad extreme, but if you look throughout history and you see the patterns of nations/society/cultural collapse, it starts like this.
Today is a day of minority groups ruling our culture and society.
Going to your point about the hospital staff not wanting to be filmed. Personal choice. Understandable, they can make a request to the father, saying 'I prefer not to be in this video' please don't film my face/name tag etc. But then again, if you work in an industry like that, where these events mark some of the most important, memorable and proud moments of a persons life, then the thought and understanding of the joy and emotions of the parents should be enough to understand that they might want to make a decision to film it.
Personally, I wouldn't really want to film it. But I'm also not about to become a father, so my opinion is probably invalid.
All I am saying is, that in a situation like that, the decision should really lie with those who are really important on that day, the parents. Not the hospital staff.
The principle is what I'm arguing. The fact that our basic right to choose has been denied. I disagree with blanket bans. Case by case is how it should be determined, and should there be an issue, then it can be resolved with those concerned (hospital staff and parents).
Don't tease the christian
You know how touchy they can be about the fires of hell!
edit: daemonum nocturnum.. Yeah I went to a Catholic school but my Latin is very limited..
edit2: Just played with that in google translate Latin->English and this fits better: nocturnus deus daemonum
I think he was referring to starting a fire/flame war/debate.
And in regards to what you said, I'm not touchy about it, real Christian's aren't know all, self righteous, judgemental, touchy, and preaching people....they are people who use the name of a faith/religion to justify a lifestyle.