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Booked in for a tune - SV6 SIDI :)

Discussion in 'VE Holden Commodore (2006 - 2013)' started by SV6SidiUTE, May 5, 2010.

  1. monaro327

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    it's not really unlocking the sidi to it's original power as powerchip claim it will make 226kw on their 98ron only tune. the camaro makes 224kw on 92ron fuel. for 98ron i'd be expecting a 235ish kw gain at the flywheel.
     
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    lol no one seems to be worried about debt!! MOST P platers still live at home = no rent, with a good job.
    You can pick up a VE for a good price and alot of power under the foot (compared to the old days) and they are legal for P platers(no turbo) so yep i agree alot around with P's on them!! ahhh to be young,with no morgage would be great!! :) lol
     
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    Would this tune increase fuel usage??( i know the more power the more the right foot gets heavier) but just day to day driving be great if fuel numbers kept the same but had a bit more under the foot for fun times
     
  4. VTSS350

    VTSS350 Blown VT LS1 450rwhp

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    Exactly. I dont believe powerchip are doing the tune properly.

    I had my LS1 tuned at Sams Performace in Padstow and it took 4-5 hours on the dyno to get it right. It was a tune specificily for my car not just a generic tune chucked in.

    It would be interesting to get a base line power reading on 91ron fuel and then drain the tank and run it up on 98ron. I recon you would almost pick up 10kw there.

    Lets wait and see!
     
  5. SV6SidiUTE

    SV6SidiUTE Vroom?

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    hmmmm,

    left my car there this morning, got a merc 4wd for a lease car.... they couldn't get me a rental so the dude gave me his car. I saw the dyno sheets of other cars there while I was waiting for the "lease" car... they seem a bit too low...... they are saying a ve 195 alloytech at the wheels only makes less than 120kw... and 300kw vt 5.2 sii makes around 150....when i asked him about where the dyno is done, he said a place in sunshine, when asked why that far from where they are his answer was "they are just about the only place that gives a consistent reading, if you have 3 runs they will all read the same" so for comparisson purposes of results, they use that workshop. I am curious what the initial dyno readout will say... might have to take it elsewhere for a dyno, as those figures don't seem right.... or do they?
     
  6. SV6SIDI

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    that does sound a bit low......I would have thought a stock 195 alloytec would be around 140-150 rwkw mark. Oh well guess u will have to wait and see how much your car pulls out on the dyno . Did they say when you will be getting your car back ?
     
  7. VTSS350

    VTSS350 Blown VT LS1 450rwhp

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    My VT SS LS1 made 197 rwkw without any mods. I then put a CAI, extractors and exhuast on and made 220 rwkw.

    Yes 120 sounds a bit low, but it depends on how the dyno is set up. As long as the dyno gives consistant readings it should be fine. That is assuming they actually use a dyno.

    I have a feeling that will just flash a generic tune in and give you dyno sheets from the origional car the tune was made for.

    I was reading there website and they say 210kw to 226kw with a tune and 98ron. It would make that extra 16kws just on 98ron almost.
     
  8. SV6SidiUTE

    SV6SidiUTE Vroom?

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    nah something wasn't right with their dyno data sheets. I got the car, well.... honestly.... improvement of 7rwkw only... from 160 to 167.7 I got the dyno sheet for my car as well, I'll post it up when i find the camera. However, they think a bigger gain can be made from headers, so got in contact with Di Fillipo, and they will be happy to take a look at the car and give their opinion. Can't really notice it much, seems a bit more responsive to throttle though, but i think that might be because i have spent a day driving around in their Merc 4wd that goes nowhere :).
    They did however mention they would retune it if i go ahead with the headers..... so .. first sidi alloytec has been tuned. Worth it? Hmmm...can't tell yet. I'll give it a bit of a hammering and run with the g-tech one of these days.
     
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    TinSnips Polish all the things...

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    Sorry to hear it wasn't a more dramatic improvement. I know hopes were high. I think its a good move to go for headers - cats too of possible. Should make for a decent improvement and if they're going to retune it for you then it's worth a shot. At least until something comes out from vcm suite.
     
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    SV666 The Commodore Enthusiast

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    Agreed, I think a lot of us here had some high hopes with this break through tune up. But the engine is still very new patients is the key here, sv6 sidi has a lot of potential its detuned engine is the only thing holding it back atm i reckon, the sooner that software hits our shores the faster we can benefit from it and also the performance parts that will come along in a more generic form..

    SV6SidiUTE, mate i hoped originally this would of been the better option but at least you went out and gave it a go.
     
  11. PaulSV6

    PaulSV6 CHE Tuned 156.8rwkw

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    Will be interesting to see what the results will be.
     
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    Read comment #28........

    nah something wasn't right with their dyno data sheets. I got the car, well.... honestly.... improvement of 7rwkw only... from 160 to 167.7 I got the dyno sheet for my car as well, I'll post it up when i find the camera. However, they think a bigger gain can be made from headers, so got in contact with Di Fillipo, and they will be happy to take a look at the car and give their opinion. Can't really notice it much, seems a bit more responsive to throttle though, but i think that might be because i have spent a day driving around in their Merc 4wd that goes nowhere .
    They did however mention they would retune it if i go ahead with the headers..... so .. first sidi alloytec has been tuned. Worth it? Hmmm...can't tell yet. I'll give it a bit of a hammering and run with the g-tech one of these days.
     
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    even the early vn-vs tunes from powerchip were never that great sucked fuel and made minimal gains will just be a generic tune they put in every car they do like the old days
     
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    PaulSV6 CHE Tuned 156.8rwkw

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    Thanx mate
     
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    SV6SidiUTE Vroom?

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    Got that dyno sheet for ya....

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    hey SV6SidiUTE you recommended getting straight through quads just wondering if theses were the mufflers u were refering to ..they seem good for the price.
    AUTOTECNICA
     
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    SV666 The Commodore Enthusiast

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    Basically the same tips there mate, but here's the actual seller he went through

    EXHAUST VE SS SSV HSV CALAIS BERL DIFF BACK SED - eBay Mufflers, Exhausts, Car Parts, Accessories, Cars, Bikes, Boats. (end time 20-May-10 17:30:53 AEST)

    There's even sound clips on the listing there that demonstrates both the stock 6 exhaust and one fitted with the quads on. Hope this helps.
     
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    SV6SidiUTE Vroom?

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    just an update:

    I went past Di Filippo's workshop in Melton this morning, he done a decent deal for me to develop the headers for the sidi.
    I will need to fit a new mid section exhaust though as apparently I will be needing a new cat for the new headers. I will be doing this in a couple of weeks while I'm away and won't be needing the car for those two weeks it takes them to develop a system. He is expecting at least 15rwkw from new work... how well this goes, i suppose i will just wait and see... I will be sad to see the original exhaust go, but if it means more pwoer then hell let it be. He mentioned that they are very restricted in the bay, so he recommended going past GM Motorsports around the corner from him. I spoke to them in regards to the cold air intake, and they said it was something they were already contemplating. Possibility of an OTR maffless system, depending whether or not they will be able to tune the ECU to work with the system.

    So the exhaust system I am going for and the cold air intake I am not sure about, as the original price was fairly high, but includes the tune as well (1500). Just depends on what info GM Motorsports comes back with and whether or not they can do a good deal.

    Will keep you updated.

    OH and SV6SIDI: yeah as above post says. On their ebay page you'll find a link to my muffler recording http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FUEIPQiKNg
     
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    VTSS350 Blown VT LS1 450rwhp

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    I just fitted a CAI to my SV6 SIDI. I got hold of a VE air hammer kit and then modifiyed it to fit the SIDI.

    The origional air box setup is very restrictive.

    I can notice a difference with the CAI fitted. Initial throttle response is better and it sounds heaps better at WOT.
     
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    SV666 The Commodore Enthusiast

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    Exciting news! hopefully this could serve as the first option to the sidi boys to have some upgrades for there rides. SV6SidiUTE, all i can say is all the best for this. Hope this proves dividends.
     

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