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Brake pad and disc life.

Discussion in 'The Pub' started by Calaber, Nov 26, 2019.

  1. Calaber

    Calaber Nil Bastardo Carborundum

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    I know there was another thread posted recently about how far brake pads had lasted but I'm trying to approach this issue from another angle. Not necessarily just concerning Commodores.
    What is a "good" expectation for standard factory pads on an auto trans vehicle weighing approx 1700kg?
    Yesterday, I replaced the front tyres on our 2015 Captiva 5, which we purchased new. The pads all round are the factory originals. They have now done 113,000km and would have about 60% of the original pad material remaining. The discs are still smooth, no scoring and no ridges. The brakes don't squeal or shed dust. Braking performance has remained consistent, light pedal and solid retardation.
    At this rate, the pads will easily exceed 200k.
    I can't imagine how such low wear has been achieved. No nanny driving, but being a 4 cylinder Captiva, it's no powerhouse. Anybody got ideas how standard brakes can be so durable yet effective?
     
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    Steady normal driving and they last a long time.
    Previous VY I moved on at 60,000 the pads looked as new.
    VE now with 40,000 up they look fine also as are the discs.
     
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    replaced the front pads on the youngest daughters 2012 Kia Sorento V6.. at 130,000 km a couple of months ago.
    I bought a set of pads, F&R but the rears have little wear so i did not touch them. She might get 200,000
    out of the rears (will keep checking as I service the Kia). Rotors?? perfect ... :)
     
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    I'd be lucky to get 40k from a set of pads on the ute. Wife's Outlander only got 80k from the rears. The rear rotors also needed a skim.
     
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    Just did my second set of rears on the bike. 2nd hand when purchased bike, but have only 40,000 on it.
    (I think the braking area at the end of the drag strip is hard on pads though)
     
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    It really must depend on how and what you drive.

    If you arrive at corners fast and brake late, then they wont last anywhere near as long as more sedate driving.
    If you drive a Tesla with high regeneration (where you can bring the car to stop by easing off the accelerator) brakes will last forever ;)

    I'm often a late braker in my old fassioned ICE machine, especially when alone in the car, so i get around 40,000 - 60,000 kms.
     
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    All I can say is, it is obvious you are gental on the brakes, hence the longetivity of them.

    I have a 1973 model Valiant (unsure of kerb weight) that has done 140,000K from new...Brake pads have about 40% material left and the rotors are still in good condition.

    This car spend the majority of its life in the country, which would explain why the pads have so much life left in them, compared with the kays on the car.
     
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    Brake pad life is wholly dependant on how good your eyesight is.
    If you can see what is happening from a long distance you can adjust your necessary braking accordingly.
    If you are capable of only seeing a short distance ahead,,, eg: a red light, or a queue of stopped traffic, this will shorten your brake pad life, and possibly other types of life …..cattle, roos, sheep, bicyclists.
     
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    Also those on their phones.
     
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    So cattle, roos, sheep, bicyclist and people on their phones.

    Seems late braking might be a good idea (if I start driving a tank I mean)
     
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    The phone users are hte late brakers.....if they brake at all.
     
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    When I see people on their mobile phones at the lights, I toot the horn.....They tend to accelerate, then jam on the brakes, because they realise cars are coming across in front of them.

    Yeah, a little stupid on my behalf by doing that to them, but on the flip side of the coin, they should be concentrating on the lights....

    Sorry about the side track:)
     
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    The v8 rev woke someone from their phone daze last week in the carpark at chadstone. Muppet was blocking one of the roads :/

    As for brake life. Really depends on driving style and where you drive.
    I do a lot of freeway stuff so don't get on the stoppers too much. On the flip side, all the cars are manual, and the old one I have had 2 clutches put in for the 1 set of brakes (although pads did get changed somewhere in there). 150-200k kms on the rotors and I think it was about 50k kms the pads got done just cos. All due to engine braking and also when in traffic just crawling along and leaving gaps etc.

    Also can come down to compounds and the likes.
    Again you might not think your driving is grandpa spec, but the compounds of pads and rotors may be designed for those who accel and brake all the time where as with your more steady style they don't get up to high temps and or wear heavily.
     
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    My driving style is definitely more sedate than it was 20 years ago. Having a car like a 4 cylinder Captiva hardly gets the pulse racing. The one driving habit I have always had is leaving plenty of space between my car and the one in front. Where you see idiots riding the rear bumpers of the leading car you will also see constant brake lights. I probably use the brakes sparingly without conciously thinking about it because I always have the space to slow down without braking.
     
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    This explains why you have such good brake life. And need I say, alot of common sense too boot.
     
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    More compliments. Can't handle this!
     
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    Best I'd start abusing you....So here goes....Stop whinging and whinging about the lack of money you have to out lay on brakes....Start driving like an idiot and you'll be right :p :D

    Make you feel better now :D
     
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    I did have a nasty experience many years ago with Holden brakes. Hot EH, lowered, wide wheels and.... standard drums front and rear. Wouldn't stop a skateboard. Locked up in a sweeping bend one night when driving ummm.... "briskly". Did a 180 and kissed a guide post in the process. Learnt that all go and no slow was not a good combo. Ahh, experience is a wonderful teacher. And, just keep this thread on track, yes, that incident pissed me off.
     
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    Must be something with EH's and learning experiences. My first 3 cars were EH's.....First was drum brakes all round....Definately taught me the values of leaving large gaps to allow good braking distance...

    My 2nd and 3rd EH's had HR discs up front....My 2nd one, I was cocky, having better brakes up front....Locked into a corner and ended up skidding down a 9' embankment, on its side, into a golf course. From that experience, a good friend had a good chat to me mentioning about my first EH and using those brakes as a guide to driving and allowing braking distances accordingly. It certainly changed my driving habits
     
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    Its a bit like when you get your truck licence, you learn to leave a good stopping gap, always looking around and so forth.
    But then when it involves a crash box, you learn to not want to stop whatsoever, always keep it rolling if you can.
    Just small principles to use in daily driving that all make for a smoother style with less wear and tear.
     

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