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CAI...not seen any difference

WogBoyz

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Im also backing steve.. all the products i got from him for my v6 ute, spacers, larger tb, cai airbox all made a differnce to my ute. Wasnt a massive differences but you could deff they had an effect, keep up the good work MACE!
 
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im sure if you change the tb, size of the airbox, piping, tune it, and bolt on a blower you will notice a difference, but as far as bolting on a CAI ONLY, no exhaust not tuned or anything else i'm very doubtful you will notice a difference at the foot... Call me naive, but im sure a 'sales person' will tell you anything to get a sale.. not doubting any product or their businesses. it is as a whole that i doubt any small modification such as cai will make a difference.

That Chev badge really added 50hp, i swear...
 

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couldnt agree with u more impulsive...iv yet to find a better throttle body to upgrade,piping what better can go then standard black psv? and not meaning to sound stupid but what u mean by a bolt on blower( is that slang for exhaust lol)
 

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im sure if you change the tb, size of the airbox, piping, tune it, and bolt on a blower you will notice a difference, but as far as bolting on a CAI ONLY, no exhaust not tuned or anything else i'm very doubtful you will notice a difference at the foot... Call me naive, but im sure a 'sales person' will tell you anything to get a sale.. not doubting any product or their businesses. it is as a whole that i doubt any small modification such as cai will make a difference.

That Chev badge really added 50hp, i swear...

I take it you are referring to Alloytechs/SIDI's only?
 

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couldnt agree with u more impulsive...iv yet to find a better throttle body to upgrade,piping what better can go then standard black psv? and not meaning to sound stupid but what u mean by a bolt on blower( is that slang for exhaust lol)

Blower = Supercharger.. im sure with the right mod's combined you will notice a difference.. TB piping and CAI will make a world of a distance, and combined with an flowing exhaust to match even better.. but for someone to claim a world of difference from a CAI only... im not so sure
 

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In general alloytec or not you can definitely improve the performance of an internal combustion engine just by modifying the intake system. In the case of the alloytec the area with the greatest potential for improvement is the air box assembly. Modifying or replacing this with a well designed item WILL yield a measurable increase in performance by itself. I've never suggested that these items by themselves will yield reductions in quarter mile times by seconds, but going by the overwhelming feedback with people running our cold air intakes in various configurations, practically speaking work as described.

Why? Well here is a detailed explanation I've written in another forum below (Q and A). Was written about a throttle body discussion but definitely still applicable here.

“At the end of the day a engine can only consume as much air as it is capable of, having a bigger hole to let the air in doesn’t mean that it will be able to actually to consume more air.”

Volume flow rate is different to pressure. Meaning you can have the same volume flow rate but much higher pressure (the extreme case would be forced induction) which would relate to an increase in power, as it “crams” the additional oxygen in the cylinders. The same is true with naturally aspirated engines however they have only atmospheric pressure to play with (around 101.3kPa absolute pressure) therefore one of the ways to improve power in naturally aspirated vehicle is to reduce the pressure drop across the entire inlet tract (including throttle body). In the case of a boosted car it’s much easier to overcome this inherent pressure drop by simply running more boost.

As for reducing air speed in the inlet tract it’s not as bad as people make it out to be as slowing air speed does decrease the pressure drop across the induction system.

In saying this though if this was to occur around the injector/cylinder port area it’s not good, as it would result in poor fuel atomization, wet-walling etc. Anything before and I wouldn’t be worried to much about speed. It’s only when fuel is involved that speed is important. Speed is important in the intake manifold but that’s when you start playing around with runner diameter and lengths, to achieve desired savaging etc. Yes savaging does occur in the inlet tract but is quite weak relative to that occurs in the manifold itself.

Basically putting a larger throttle body is the same reason why larger inlet piping, higher flowing filter works!

For more info check out the following links

Boost Part 1

Boost Part 2

You can take what I've written with a grain of salt, as biased fantasy, however I encourage people to do the following easy testing themselves!

No need for techincal engineering calcs, all you need is a coke bottle, some clear tube and water to make yourself a manometer, plus a stop watch and a way you go.

CAI Mods Tested

Interesting as to see how they were able to achieve some significant results just by some mild tweaks

Cheers,
Steve
 
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......... i'm very doubtful you will notice a difference at the foot...

steve,
no one is having a chop at your product, from what ive researched its probably one of the most considerable on the market for alloytec, and if i had the coin i would trial it... what the OP is saying is that he doesnt feel the gains at the peddle, or, seat of his pants.. he doesnt physically feel the power gains, which is what we are saying.. not that they arent there.. testing will show better airflow and more hp no doubt. Please don't take us the wrong way.
 

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Noticed a def imrovement in throttle response, fuel eco and alittle power. Revs alot easier also, different car though. Steve knows his stuff :)
 
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