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CAI...not seen any difference

soop

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I've just gotta wonder why you're car is so much different to everyone else's.

I've had maybe 6 - 7 cars over the years. And modified them all.
Not one has ever had a noticeable difference from just fitting a fancy pipe to it... ever.

CAI goes along way to helping when you're doing so more major modifications no doubt, but as a stand alone mod its just about pointless.
 

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Noticed a def imrovement in throttle response, fuel eco and alittle power. Revs alot easier also, different car though. Steve knows his stuff :)

I think the other thing to consider is does fitting one of these on it's own provide a performance/efficiency increase comensurate with it's cost? I've got an open mind on this however at this point in time I would not be disposed to spend in the order of $300 just to change an air box. For a V6 my car goes good enough stock and if I wanted more power then I'd probably think about getting a V8.
 

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steve,
no one is having a chop at your product, from what ive researched its probably one of the most considerable on the market for alloytec, and if i had the coin i would trial it... what the OP is saying is that he doesnt feel the gains at the peddle, or, seat of his pants.. he doesnt physically feel the power gains, which is what we are saying.. not that they arent there.. testing will show better airflow and more hp no doubt. Please don't take us the wrong way.

It’s all good impulsive :)

I’m always willing to listen to any constructive feedback good or bad

As for the op’s problem it was most likely attributed to the incorrect pipe we’ve sent up as shown in the link I posted close to the top of this page.

http://forums.justcommodores.com.au...-any-difference-your-product.html#post1726044

Long story short our alloytec CAI kits run the same diameter pipe as they earlier kits except half as long. The tube should be around 50mm long. He was originally supplied a longer pipe from my understanding

This steel tube joins the rubber hose and pod filter together. If this pipe is too long it will intrude into the inlet tract hurting airflow, thus performance.

Hope this clears up the ops case.

Cheers,
Steve

I've just gotta wonder why you're car is so much different to everyone else's.

I've had maybe 6 - 7 cars over the years. And modified them all.
Not one has ever had a noticeable difference from just fitting a fancy pipe to it... ever.

CAI goes along way to helping when you're doing so more major modifications no doubt, but as a stand alone mod its just about pointless.

So you did similar sort of testing to what this guy’s done below?

CAI Mods Tested

Interesting to see just changing a short elbow shaved .15 seconds in his 0-100 time

Bare in mind the car is dead standard, so the results are effectively stand alone :)

As for the op’s problem it was most likely attributed to the incorrect pipe we’ve sent up as shown in the link I posted close to the top of this page.

http://forums.justcommodores.com.au...-any-difference-your-product.html#post1726044

Long story short our alloytec CAI kits run the same diameter pipe as they earlier kits except half as long. The tube should be around 50mm long. He was originally supplied a longer pipe from my understanding

This steel tube joins the rubber hose and pod filter together. If this pipe is too long it will intrude into the inlet tract hurting airflow, thus performance.

Hope this clears up the ops case

I think the other thing to consider is does fitting one of these on it's own provide a performance/efficiency increase comensurate with it's cost? I've got an open mind on this however at this point in time I would not be disposed to spend in the order of $300 just to change an air box. For a V6 my car goes good enough stock and if I wanted more power then I'd probably think about getting a V8.

And that’s fair enough. And depending on your current mods, budget and your requirements probably would probably recommend something else next anyways :)
 

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[And that’s fair enough. And depending on your current mods, budget and your requirements probably would probably recommend something else next anyways :)[/QUOTE]

From what I have read the most cost effective mod for a stock Ecotech (as mine is) would probably be one of the Mace Engineering spacers that fits between the inlet manifold and the plenum chamber?
 

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Really speaks for itself (VE) Not only is the piping larger, there is barely any restriction compared to stock. Every time I go in for a warranty claim I put the standard box back on and it really feels lethargic.
 

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hi steve hope u got my email yeterday regarding pipe please let me no the progress...can u run me through throttle body upgrades? do u have throttle body upgrades for my vz...dont get me wrong i believe your product and productS work and my next step is manifold insulators from mace,heard nothing but good results i posted this as to see if i had the 1 in a million wrong product( just my luck i can never win at always getting things 100% lol) but i can assure u steve i will be buying from mace soon and with more as the new products come out!
 

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I think the thing to remember here is the MACE stuff DOES work as its described, because a few of us have seen it in data.

But what it does data wise versus the perception of what it will feel like can be 2 different things. Ultimately a new air box and some insulators aren't going to make the car feel like it has a supercharger 2 extra cylinders bolted on, but they will offer cooler air being fed into the intake, which is evident in data.
 

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Derrrrrrr.
well if its that apparent, why are there people confused about it?? By the sounds of it Steve cops it quite a bit
 
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