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Cam VS supercharger

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It is auto, I should have mentioned that sorry.
Only problem is it is a daily, and my mrs drives it too, so I'm thinking a turbo that only kicks higher would trouble that a bit.

Correct me if I'm wrong. But. A charger is low/mid power and a turbo is high end power?

For me I think low/mid is more what I'm after.


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A turbo is what ever you want it to be based on your choice of said compressor, common misconception that a turbo is only 'top end'.
Turbo has the benefit of being able to have a electronic controller hooked up, run a low 5-6psi tune for the wife and a 12+psi for fun. A charger is fixed on what it runs at pressure wise.
 

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Ah ok, much to learn about turbos then.
What's the difference between a single big turbo or a twin turbo set up?
Would a twin just have a small turbo building up to the larger one?

What's one worth to set up fully installed? Under 10k?


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Ah ok, much to learn about turbos then.
What's the difference between a single big turbo or a twin turbo set up?
Would a twin just have a small turbo building up to the larger one?

What's one worth to set up fully installed? Under 10k?


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In basic terms, a twin turbo setup will be more responsive as you have a smaller compressor to spin, down side is extra expense and headache as you have double of everything, two wastegates, two dumps, two oil feeds and drains, etc ,etc
To make big power you need a large compressor which with a twin setup you won't have the room with all the pipe work, hence the large single.
There are two different types of twin turbo setup, parallel or sequential.
Parallel is two identical turbos working at the same time.
Sequential is where you have a smaller and a larger turbo setup. The smaller operates at low RPM for decreased lag, and once you reach a certain RPM a valve directs the exhaust flow to the larger turbo.
 

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but for the biggest (across the board) torque increase a turbo will always beat a charger - blow for blow.

Don't agree with that, turbos (most) have a very" peaky" torque curve.
Pd have a much broader and smoother torque curve from idle.

And with the peak power comment I was getting at peak power means ****....lol.

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In basic terms, a twin turbo setup will be more responsive as you have a smaller compressor to spin, down side is extra expense and headache as you have double of everything, two wastegates, two dumps, two oil feeds and drains, etc ,etc
To make big power you need a large compressor which with a twin setup you won't have the room with all the pipe work, hence the large single.
There are two different types of twin turbo setup, parallel or sequential.
Parallel is two identical turbos working at the same time.
Sequential is where you have a smaller and a larger turbo setup. The smaller operates at low RPM for decreased lag, and once you reach a certain RPM a valve directs the exhaust flow to the larger turbo.

Yeah I was more interested in sequential then.
Just googling at the moment about turbos and set ups.
First things first, need to our brembos on.
But so far there is some very good persuasion for a turbo setup over a charger.


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In basic terms, a twin turbo setup will be more responsive as you have a smaller compressor to spin, down side is extra expense and headache as you have double of everything, two wastegates, two dumps, two oil feeds and drains, etc ,etc
To make big power you need a large compressor which with a twin setup you won't have the room with all the pipe work, hence the large single.
There are two different types of twin turbo setup, parallel or sequential.
Parallel is two identical turbos working at the same time.
Sequential is where you have a smaller and a larger turbo setup. The smaller operates at low RPM for decreased lag, and once you reach a certain RPM a valve directs the exhaust flow to the larger turbo.

Twin t04zs fit low mount on a ve and made 708rwhp at 7psi and 1008rwhp at 18psi...

But yes, on an auto car just stick with a single for ease of fitment...trust me.

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Twin t04zs fit low mount on a ve and made 708rwhp at 7psi and 1008rwhp at 18psi...

But yes, on an auto car just stick with a single for ease of fitment...trust me.

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I was keeping it simple talking in general terms :p
Also who uses dirty old T04's!
 

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Heaps of people cuz they work well...lol, and they were ball:bearing t04z's..

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If you wanna do turbo properly you will be looking at $20k for quality gear fitted by someone.
Pd will be $5k more.
Cam only na is cheapest option initially but makes less overall power and uses more fuel.

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Don't go sequential. That's for production cars. Compound turbo setups are cool, but done corrdctly you won't have change from $50k and they aren't any good on ls based motors anyway cuz no ls can handle 60+psi of boost.

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