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Thanks monstar for the info..

Will definitely be doing just the outside of the headers.
 

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There are a million sites talking up the benefits of internal ceramic coating of headers.

Just the fact it hugely increases the life of the headers alone would be a good enough reason for me to get it done.

Which for a mild performance street car that I intend to keep is far more important to me than the possible lose or gain of a few of horsepower.




http://www.hotrod.com/articles/high-tech-ceramic-coatings/

http://www.autoanything.com/exhaust...-exhaust-wraps-which-improves-horsepower-best

http://www.exhausttechnology.com/ceramic_coating.html

https://axleaddict.com/auto-repair/...mic-Coat-your-Exhaust-Headers-and-Turbo-Parts

http://www.hpcoatings.com.au/coatings-2/
 

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There are a million sites talking up the benefits of internal ceramic coating of headers.

Just the fact it hugely increases the life of the headers alone would be a good enough reason for me to get it done.

Which for a mild performance street car that I intend to keep is far more important to me than the possible lose or gain of a few of horsepower.




http://www.hotrod.com/articles/high-tech-ceramic-coatings/

http://www.autoanything.com/exhaust...-exhaust-wraps-which-improves-horsepower-best

http://www.exhausttechnology.com/ceramic_coating.html

https://axleaddict.com/auto-repair/...mic-Coat-your-Exhaust-Headers-and-Turbo-Parts

http://www.hpcoatings.com.au/coatings-2/
You don’t get it, fair enough. That video does not make a point for internal coating for performance, but for longevity.
Rationale is because pipes rust on the inside... :confused: Well not if you drive it properly, regularly!
Changing heat, density and velocity can be advantageous if you have a clue what you’re doing and are aware of the thermodynamics at play, but changing the tuned design of an off-the-shelf header can be disasterous.
But yeah, if you don’t care about energy efficiency thus performance and simply want to extend the life of your pose pipes because you don’t drive your car often, sure, dip the lot in a paint bath.
 
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You don’t get it, fair enough. That video does not make a point for internal coating for performance, but for longevity.
Rationale is because pipes rust on the inside... :confused: Well not if you drive it properly, regularly!
Changing heat, density and velocity can be advantageous if you have a clue what you’re doing and are aware of the thermodynamics at play, but changing the tuned design of an off-the-shelf header can be disasterous.
But yeah, if you don’t care about energy efficiency thus performance and simply want to extend the life of your pose pipes because you don’t drive your car often, sure, dip the lot in a paint bath.

My car is a daily that constantly stops and starts due to many short haul trips with an occasional longer drive and an annual long run thrown in much the same as many other family vehicles out there living in the suburbs.

If driving it properly doesn’t allow me to do that then the car is useless to my family.

It’s for that reason I see a lot of sense in protecting my financial input into a set of headers.

If you are too pompous to see the rationale of that then no skin off my nose.

Along with longevity there’s a lot written about efficiency, scavenging, coefficients and thermodynamics for increased performance that favour the use of internal ceramic coatings for headers but as that doesn’t suit your opinion I guess it’s now time for you to carry on like a pork chop with some fancy calcs to bamboozle everyone into believing you are right and other studies are wrong.

I’ll take my chances and go with the alternative opinions and happily disregard you’re “my way is the only way” view on every subject.
 

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My car is a daily that constantly stops and starts due to many short haul trips with an occasional longer drive and an annual long run thrown in much the same as many other family vehicles out there living in the suburbs.

If driving it properly doesn’t allow me to do that then the car is useless to my family.

It’s for that reason I see a lot of sense in protecting my financial input into a set of headers.

If you are too pompous to see the rationale of that then no skin off my nose.

Along with longevity there’s a lot written about efficiency, scavenging, coefficients and thermodynamics for increased performance that favour the use of internal ceramic coatings for headers but as that doesn’t suit your opinion I guess it’s now time for you to carry on like a pork chop with some fancy calcs to bamboozle everyone into believing you are right and other studies are wrong.

I’ll take my chances and go with the alternative opinions and happily disregard you’re “my way is the only way” view on every subject.
Seems the longevity of the pipe is more important than economy and performance to you and your family, weird.
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Above is the state of HSV headers inside and out after almost a decade.
Without any coating headers will outlast the model run of your car, do you realise that? By like 20 years or so! False economy thinking coating that is going to save money, car will be worthless by that time. Certainly not going to increase its value because the inside of the pipe is shiny or otherwise.
Perhaps OP thinks same? That was not my impression given the thread, hence my advice answering in the technical.
Why do you call me ‘pompous’ by going into detail for the OP? Strange, as if to bait me, like last time you decided to troll.
I think you simply didn’t read what I said about the benefits of internal coating when fabricating headers, and have jumped on this thread to have a go at me, slightly half-cocked with another limpid personal attack. Shame.
Otherwise if you are indeed wishing to promote the argument per OP that internally coating headers designed / tuned not to be coated has some engineering benefit, I am interested to read the information to which you refer. As would OP.
Speak to an accountant about saving money, likely professional financial advice is to get another car for everyday or trade up to the current model. Simple.
 

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I believe each is entitled to their opinion. The forum is to discus merit of both opinions and you get to choose what you would like to do.

No skin off anyone's nose.
 

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I believe each is entitled to their opinion. The forum is to discus merit of both opinions and you get to choose what you would like to do.

No skin off anyone's nose.
Surely the point of us contributing (as in paying regular donations and offering regular honest unfettered advice) is not simply to engage in argument? Those commenters who simply contradict without the ability to back up an argument should receive an infraction!
Aren’t we here to openly exchange real first hand experience, facts and practical knowledge rather than marketing sales speak, rumour and heresay, belligerence and poor attitude?
 
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