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Cheapest way to make a performance VT

Discussion in 'VT - VX Holden Commodore (1997 - 2002)' started by uriah, Jul 20, 2006.

  1. uriah

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    Hi,

    I'm looking at getting a VT Series 2 3.8l or 5.7l and I was just wondering what are the cheapest upgrades could you make to either of these, to raise it to the performance of a Nissan R33.

    Which would mean a power to weight ratio of 7.34 kw per kg (The R33 has 1367kg and 186kw).

    And increasing the handling substancially.

    Just wondering what configuration of upgrades I could make to either of these to attain these performance levels, and which would be the cheapest?

    Thanks.
     
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    meh who cares about Kw...the torque of a 5.7L should be enough to show up the R33...
     
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    Oh it can definitly give it a run for it's money, but it doesn't have that feel of ridiculously scary instantaneous acceleration. My friends R33 although modified, off the line really pulls you back into the seats, more than the stock 3.8l and 5.7l's of other friends. I just want to achieve that similar acceleration and handling.
     
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    yeah my previous was pretty crap lol...just had to support holden...what sort of budget are you looking at?
    we found that the PWR chip we got for our Adventra 5.7 was awesome, more power and somehow now it seems to not use any petrol...well thats an over exaggeration...the chips are usually exchanged and like 1k...

    theres plenty of small mods, like chip, full exhaust, CAI, not sure about cams etc (though cam and chip is good for 3.8)

    or u have bigger mods like supercharger and what not...

    but yeah really depends what u want to do?
     
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    I have bigger mods in mind, like turbo(s) and supercharger(s).

    I could get a 5.7l SS for 14 and that would be almost there, and with some little mods could get it there.

    Or I could get a 3.8l Exec for 7 and get some bigger mods, which would raise the price, but might beat the SS on power to weight and for less.

    I'm trying to weigh these against each other. I could buy a 3.8l Exec out right, and make changes almost straight away. Or I could get a SS on finance and make the changes once i've paid it off.

    The budget doesn't matter that much, it's more the individual components price and increase in performance, since they will all be gotten incrementally over a year or so.
     
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    If you want it to go like a r33 go get a bloddy r33
     
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    they reckon that a stroker kit for 3.8 is the way to go, though it can get expensive, 2300 for basic components, then u have to get machining done and probly ugrade the fuel system...but then while your in the engine u can do up the internals and prepare for turbo, supercharger whatever.
     
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    I want a cheaper car, an australian car, and most important of all, I don't fit in a r33. I am 2meters tall, the VT is the most comfortable car i've ever sat in, I put the seat all the way back and it was perfect. The R33 however, I can't drive. I physically can't do it.
     
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    Well if I can get a VT 3.8 Exec for 7, and a VT 5.7 SS for 14, that gives the Exec a 7k head start to get the 3.8 upto the 5.7's standards and maybe exceed them?
     
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    A VT6 with 7 grand spent on it would be a beast..

    But I'd rather pick up a cheap GenIII for about 11 grand and spend a few grand on it.. You'll be driving a monster..
     
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    with how much fuel is costing id just try n get one of them new v6s the quad thiny magiggy
    but that would cost heaps
    if you want a cheaper performance car it might be best to sell the holden and get something else
    i mean sure the holden is a great car
    but it was built as a all round family car
    not really a performance car.
    like the amount of work that hsv put into a car to make it better is a faaaaaaaair bit
    considering that yes you could get a $20 000 skyline that would stil beat a gts :S
     
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    If I could get a GenIII for 11k I would be set. But I can't seem to find one, I only seem to be able to find one for 13-14. I live in SA.

    My current car is dieing pretty quick, but I could hold out a few months, if absolutley necessory. Should I hold out for a 11k Gen3 like a VT II Exec 5.7?
     
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    I reckon you should.. 11k is a bit ambitious. But I've definitely seen a few for 12..

    Instead of trying SS's etc. Maybe look for Executive GenIII's..
     
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    Yeah, I just haven't seen any Executive Gen3's.
     
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    Anyone seen any VT Series 2 Executive 5.7l Gen3's around at the moment? And what price can you get them for?
     
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    Go to Carsales and do a few searches. They're not very common, but you can find em..

    They also made em in 6 speed manual.. Perfect sleeper..
     
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    i didnt think that the vt had the gen 3 in them? maybe the gts 300 kw one ?
    i had a look at clutch prices for vts n later n **** me
    and maybe even holly ****
     
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    VT series II came with the GenIII with a 6 speed.

    and someone here is actually in the process of buying a GTS Series II 300KW :whistling
     
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    I wonder who that could be?:whistling :whistling
     
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    CarSalos only has 5.0L's and they are 12k to 14k for SA. And I have a lead on an SS for 13k.

    I'd much rather a 10k VT II Exec 5.7, since i'd be changing everything the SS has changed on it, to more performance parts, but I just can't find them, and i'm starting to get desperate for a car.
     

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