I'm all for warning labels on dominos and maccas too if it stops some people from eating themselves to death. Meh, I'll eat them anyway until my conscience tells me I'm a fat f#$&. I'll probably be grateful for the truth when I need it. When did we become so uptight that we can't handle the truth? Yes, you're filling your body with crap and slowly killing yourself. If you don't like it, stop doing it! It's not difficult.
Either you're very young or that's a trick question. Look at everything the government has attempted to institute that the big tobacco companies have opposed. Therein lies your answer. I make it simple. If the tobacco companies oppose any government legislation, you can be pretty sure the legislation is in the best interests of the public, and therefore has my support.
Again I ask, how does that make it any less difficult? Maybe less appealing, but not less difficult. I for one had no qualms continuing to smoke based on the adverts or plain packaging, any of it - I chose to quit. All the legislation is weak-sauce at best, token gestures that provide the illusion of giving a crap, without impacting that golden cash cow, just like booze. Who's for an alco-pop? Speaking of clever, well thought out legislation...... I'd strongly suggest you go and spend some time perusing the ABS to see just how much of an effect the millions of dollars and token gestures have had on smoking rates. Hint: Bugger all. I'm 35 BTW. Why the #### do we put so much stock in the ethical compass of people who prove time and time again they have none? Just look at what's going on right now in that 'noble' cesspit.
Or enough people have complained about smokers and public health and like many other things the government takes action to make it look like they care when really it's just revenue raising. It's also a perfect opportunity for a tax increase. If they really wanted people to quit, then they would seriously just cook up a plan to gradually slam the ban hammer down on smokes. But who in their right mind would take away something that brings in so much bloody money? The cost price for a pack of cigarettes is probably somewhere around $2. Add the possibility of some process fees which are probably a few bucks, lets say $3 per pack for arguments sake. So say $5 is the total cost price, that's roughly $10 a pack into the government's pocket. Now times that by a pack a day smoker, $3650 a year. According to cancer council Australia in 2010 there was a total of 30% of pack a day smokers in Australia. Lets fast forward to today, give or take some people who didn't do the survey, and people who have taken up or quit since 2010, and those who have cut down and call it 15%. 15% of the Australian population is roughly 3 and a half million. Now times that by 3650, you'll roughly get $1239400000. And that's being pretty generous and rough in the calculations, and using a survey which was unlikely to be completed by all Australians. That's a lot of money, that's not something you would exactly want to get rid of. Would much rather average out the amount of money going into taking care of ill smokers and the amount coming in from smokers. Hence the anti smoking campaign, and tax hikes.
Mostly I just look at what pisses off the tobacco companies. Make no mistake, they are pure evil. If they oppose the generic packaging and graphic images on cigarette packaging, it's a good thing. Take that as a rule of thumb. Whatever the tobacco companies oppose is almost certainly in the best interest of the public.
It's more like fuel, you are being generous, remember it's excise not tax, so it fluctuates as it has to. Basically the government gets (from memory) 92% (ish) of the final sale price. Manufacturers have even dropped there wholesale costs and reformed organisational structures to accommodate, so smokers don't feel the whole pinch. I'm with you mate, no question. But I hold our government in the same stead. The almighty dollar is far more important than people to all of them. What aggravated me most about the plain packaging is that there was no irrefutable evidence that it works, only anecdotes from the UK. I spoke to my local tobacconist who's stressed to the hilt as the biggest effect the plain packaging has had is his staff trying to find the right ones, regardless of alphabetising. He reckons it adds up to a good few hours a month, is that fair on him given he makes crap all on sales? He also sarcastically laughed and said his bottom line hasn't moved and that sales haven't decreased in the slightest. Speed cameras Mk II. If you don't have the answer, pretend you do and cash in.
Nothing much worse than going to look at buying a car and realising that the previous owner is a smoker and the inside of the car smells like an old wet sock. - Straya!
Champion Ruby 50g for me. Price averages at different shops from $35-$40. A pouch will last me a week. It's a bit of money to hand over for one pack. But when u think about it, there's ppl out there that'll smoke a pack of Winnie blue a day... Which is about $16-$20. Add that up over week and see who comes out better...
Rollie's are good for many reasons. Cost less, taste better, and less people scab off of you in the streets or at social gatherings. But sucks if you're a lazy bugger .
Yea exactly. If someone wants to scab one off u and they can't roll well that's their problem, they get no cancer stick off you haha. Also I've had a few little rolling comps with mates at the pub, whoever takes the longest has to buy the winner a beer always a good one to play with a Taylor smoker
I smoke Longbeach Original Yellows and i usually get a 40's packet which depending on where i go can be anywhere from about $27-31, i smoke about 3-5 a day unless socially smoking, then the number increases a fair bit, it's like everything else i guess, if it's something people really want they will keep jacking the prices up cause they know most of us will still pay for it which is unfortunate but again its like anything these days, don't even get me started on the price of paying rego lol Cheers
Currently I smoke JPS Menthols in a 26 packet which are $12.90 a pack. Why menthols? Well for years I smoked Winfield Blue, but last year I quit for nearly 3 months. My dog (who I had for 10 years and was really close to) died in October and being in the state of mind I was in (being 3am at an after hours vet just seeing your best friend put down) I caved in and bought a packet. I bought menthols at the time because I thought the Winfields would taste like crap after nearly 3 months of not smoking. I'm so used to menthols now I can't stand the taste of normal cigarettes. I'm a pack a day smoker. I was actually nearly 2 months into quitting again and I gave in 2 saturdays ago. I'm gonna give it another go soon and hopefully the next time I will be able to give up completely!
I am a ex smoker , what gets me is we readily accept obese people who snort down a Big Mac but yet a smoker people will crucify , I believe there should health earnings on junk food perhaps showing clogged arteries and a 20 stone lard ass Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2
The 20 stone lard ass is generally the one holding the burger, but I agree....fatties taking up space on sidewalks/busses/planes/officespace is annoying, theres a guy where I work that I have to walk passed in a thin hallway who would be easily 150kg's so I'm basically jammed up against the wall trying not to touch his sweatyness.
From a health point of view , I find it hard to find the distinction between a smoker and an over weight person who still eats poorly Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2
