Welcome to Just Commodores, a site specifically designed for all people who share the same passion as yourself.

New Posts Contact us

Just Commodores Forum Community

It takes just a moment to join our fantastic community

Register

Cooking

aussie4life

Keep It Simple Stupid
Joined
Oct 23, 2011
Messages
1,701
Reaction score
118
Points
63
Location
South Australia
Members Ride
2010 VE International 3.0L
Heya fellas. Been a while. Hope y'all been good.

Anyway, onto my problem. I am having some issues with the amp that is powering my sub. On hot days, like today at 39.6° lol, my amp goes into protection mode. It's a MOSFET 2500w mono block powering 2 x 1000watt subs. It's located in my boot which I figure is contributing to my problems as the car is parked outside.

My question is, what have you all done to avoid/prevent this from happening? One idea I had was to make a raised enclosure and put a couple 12v fans under it to circulate the air, but will it work if the air is already hot?

The other idea is that I mount it under my passenger front seat? Has anyone done this? How hard would it be to mount it to prevent it sliding around?

If you have any other ideas, I'd greatly appreciate hearing them. Thanks in advance
 

Muke

Member
Joined
Sep 11, 2011
Messages
532
Reaction score
7
Points
18
Location
Brisbane
Members Ride
VE SV6 MY08
Unfortunately I doubt fans will help much. I was having a similar problem in my VN. Had the amp mounted to the back of the sub box in the boot and on stinking hot days, if I had it cranked it would go into protection for a short while but was fine at lower volume or on cooler days. So I put a 12V fan on it blowing over the heatsink (then tried drawing air away). Did nothing as far as I could tell, so I removed it. Did think of running some ducting to the boot vents, but cbf with the effort. Maybe a fan on each vent, one in, one out to circulate fresh air would be easier??? Same gear moved to the VE and I have bugger all issues. Might be a cooler boot, might be I don't crank the music like I used to, or I think I read somewhere it could have been a wiring issue (not earthed well enough or something). Which could be it, the earth is slightly longer in the VE, but to a much better spot. Power lead is also a fraction of the length it was.

Anyway, I'll leave the advice to people that know what they're talking about. Just sharing my experience that the fan blowing on the amp was a waste of time for me. Hope you sort out a fix, I know how frustrating it is.
 

StoneX

New Member
Joined
Aug 14, 2005
Messages
3,437
Reaction score
29
Points
0
Age
44
Location
Hastings
Members Ride
VE Calais-V 6.0L
Best way to fix it is buy a decent amp that doesn't produce so much heat. Your problem is that it's not a great quality amp and is probably running at its maximum limits. If you had a more powerful amplifier running at only half power there wouldn't be as much heat or if you had a more efficient class-D amplifier that doesn't make anywhere near as much heat.

Otherwise, ensure the amp is mounted with the heatsink fins upwards so the heat can dissipate more easily. You can try fans which will keep it cooler but may just delay the inevitable overheating. Mounting under seats generally causes a lot of heat already as there's no air flow... I guess you could aim your AC vents down towards the floor but who knows how effective that'll be.
 

Deuce

Super Stock
Joined
Feb 5, 2012
Messages
4,491
Reaction score
4,716
Points
113
Location
Snobs Rock (or so the locals say)
Members Ride
'94 VR SS V8
I had a Alpine V12 amp with a similar problem, I mounted 2 computer fans on top and a remote switch by the bonnet popper (easy access from drivers seat, although car was not a commy) and at full volume my subs without fans would cut out after 1/2 hour; or with fans on (and a boot load of crap as I was shifting towns when tested) it lasted 3.5hours. (and with fans going it re-started out of protection mode within 20min's, so I finished the trip with music at a bearable volume and it never cut out again, LOL)
Fans were drawing air from between fins and blowing it vertically (amp mounted on top of sub box) and there was a small access to allow that vertical flow into the cabin.

Likewise I had a smaller Alpine V12 running 2 speakers, it was mounted under the front passenger seat. The car had air vents down there so I had the A/C going straight on it. Problem was that the thermal protection detected at the front of the amp (which was ice cold) and the unit still blew a channel because the rear half was frying pan hot!
So I would definitely encourage the solution suggested by Stone X "get a Bigger amp that is suited to your desired usage"

good luck mate
 

hotrod

Banned
Joined
Jul 21, 2013
Messages
1,152
Reaction score
7
Points
0
Location
victoria
Members Ride
commodore s2
mmm, maybe you can take a bbq pack with ya and have a cook up ha ha , maybe worth getting a good amp that can cope with it , and don't run the amp at its peak.
 

aussie4life

Keep It Simple Stupid
Joined
Oct 23, 2011
Messages
1,701
Reaction score
118
Points
63
Location
South Australia
Members Ride
2010 VE International 3.0L
The amp is not running anywhere near its peak. It's below half of its capabilities. Plus I have full control over it from the remote gain control I have mounted up front. Gives me the ability to tune to each song. Seriously, if all the advice you can offer is to get a new amp, keep it.
 

hotrod

Banned
Joined
Jul 21, 2013
Messages
1,152
Reaction score
7
Points
0
Location
victoria
Members Ride
commodore s2
ok sorry I didn't mean to get you upset , all I know from my experiences is to place the amp as low as you can in the car , good luck.
 

StoneX

New Member
Joined
Aug 14, 2005
Messages
3,437
Reaction score
29
Points
0
Age
44
Location
Hastings
Members Ride
VE Calais-V 6.0L
The amp is not running anywhere near its peak. It's below half of its capabilities. Plus I have full control over it from the remote gain control I have mounted up front. Gives me the ability to tune to each song. Seriously, if all the advice you can offer is to get a new amp, keep it.

Sorry mate, but the advice given so far has been all correct for the poor amount of information you've provided. There is no amplifier brand called "MOSFET", a MOSFET is a metal–oxide–semiconductor field-effect transistor which is the electronic component that amplifies the audio inside the amplifier. It's like you JUST telling people your car is a 3.8L V6, how is anyone meant to know what make or model car you have?

Don't give us poor information and complain about poor advice.


If you want the honest truth, it's a poor quality amp that runs hot.
 

hotrod

Banned
Joined
Jul 21, 2013
Messages
1,152
Reaction score
7
Points
0
Location
victoria
Members Ride
commodore s2
amen :spot on: get a amp that can cope.
 

mpower

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 22, 2007
Messages
5,078
Reaction score
1,713
Points
113
Location
Brisbane
Members Ride
V2 CV8 Monaro and VF SSV Redline
if it's out of warranty, maybe open it up and make sure the heatsinks (the things that are getting hot) are making good contact with the stuff that's getting hot, might just need some new heatsink compound applied.

Heatsink Compound - 10 gram tube - Jaycar Electronics

also as above, some active cooling could help.
 
Top