I totally agree but it brings down the whole p plate system...everyone will get hit, i do think it would be hard to target just the ones in the wrong but dont see the point in bringing evryone down
Cast a wide net so to speak. The Tuna fishermen catch a few dolphins and try to let them go unharmed, but they still get caught up in the net. The young people trying to do the right thing will still invariably be issued with defects but isn't that a good thing? Gets the cars up to scratch. A lot of people will be unhappy but is that the trade off for creating a safer motoring environment?.....
I cannot lie and say that i dont see your point in making a safer environment for all i just disagree with theyre ways of doing it...i spose we'll have to wait and see you gets hit and for what...
at the end of the day i think they are doing the right thing on the basis they are trying to cut the toll in the younger drivers.
From what i understand that will be changing. Also from what i understand SA,Vic, NSW and QLD will be using a mro euniform approach, meaning if you have a HP car in vic and go to SA you can get stung.
does anyone know if theres a way of obtaining a cerificate of your power to weight ratio that you can show police when asked?? not sure if a dyno report would cover you??
All i know is that if you have you ps now or get them b4 july the 1st when the laws com into effect you are not haveing to worry about Performance side of the law they are only for people geting the learners or Ps lol only way i know that is i work for Qld transport lol and in dec im moveing to Melb to work for Vic roads and the laws will be flooded accross the country to every state
I tend to agree with restricting the power a young person can use on the road, that being said I see no problem with a lightly modified 80's or 90's model car (Not many P platers can afford much else) But if I saw a P plater Pass there test then jump into a supercharged 8 beast that would take off if we added wings and with more horsies under the bonnet then in Lord of the Rings then i'd be a bit skeptical. Basically its always been this way, P platers copped it (No pun) when I was one Ive been pulled over twice since I got my full license once for a speeding ticket ( I Deserved that big time ) Another because I changed lanes a bit late to go around a police vehicle and was issued with a warning once again I deserved that. On my P's I was pulled countless times for spot roadworthys bretho checks, license checks, rego check, tire check, hair style whatever they could think of. Saving more lives is a must and i'd rather see education and a safe outlet be the solution rather then restriction and revenue raising. My brother killed himself in a STOCK VT when he was 18 next thing they'll be saying even stock cars are too powerfull for P Platers give them those friggen smart cars. On the offhand you've gotta learn to crawl before you can walk I'm surprised they haven't forced all P platers with capable cars to be fitted with speed limiters, It would be just another of the ridiculous things they do.
even with speed limiters the hoon factor is still there as u will still be able to do a burnout this is what most class as hooning not driving fast maybe rev limitors is a better option
Ahh yes, but im pointing out stupid things THEY do. I'd forgotten that though, They seem to think hooning is just being young and breaking one or more of the rules and so it rubs off onto me. wouldnt surprise me if they did that though.
Yeah it kind of sucks, I was pulled over about 5 times last month for just random checks. Though its something we have to put up with, I know were the police are coming from every time I turn on channel 9 news, 80% of the time I see a fatal car crash and 70% of the time it is a idiot P plater. I can see both sides of the story. Thankgod I get my full licence next year, I will be burning those P plates
On saturday night I saw a car (In non smashed condition) getting loaded onto a tow truck, police behind it light flashing, This was in ringwood. I feel sorry for the kid losing hes car and he didnt look happy either, but I was glad the cops had taken an F wit driver off the road they would have had good reason i'd say he was probably dragging or doing burnouts fairly common for that area, im all for drag racing and burnouts, so long as its not on the public roads full of innocent people. On a lighter note my mate who is a P plater resisted the temptation to drag some numb nut in a VL turbo, we pull up next to them at the lights, my mate is 21 they looked about 18 and barely that, they looked over at us, nodded, my mate ignored them. The lights changed they took off, my mate just smoothly and easily glided up to the speed limit in hes 99% stock VR not willing to be involved in that crap. They made several other attempts all were ignored, better education and hormone control I say.
I will bet the dyno wont be free, and im quite sure we will see the police sending any P plated car with any mod to get a dyno check at the owners expense. They dont give a **** if it costs you money to prove your car is under the limit. We are supposed to have the system of innocent till proven guilty but the onus (and expense) is always on the owner to prove the car complies with regulations. The defect checking system worked a lot better here in QLD when it was run by Queensland Transport Inspectors who actually know about cars and the regulations governing them. They would look over the car, write the relevant ticket and you would go over the pit only to show that you had fixed the problems listed on the ticket. Not like the current system where the cop doesnt really know whether your car complies with regulations or not because they dont specialise in that area and send your car for inspection anyway because they are uncertain of your cars compliance.
aghh this annoys me, it isnt just p platers who get random checks, i get pulled over at the sight of a police car.
Who gives a f*ck.. I love being pulled over.. It makes me feel safe. If my car ever gets stolen, I'll rest easy they'll probably see blue and red lights, even if they're obeying the law. I think random breath, license and rego checks are great. It keeps drunk, unlicensed and unregistered vehicles off the road, at very least it takes them off the road..
I dont think I mentioned it is just P platers getting pulled over? That would be stupid saying just P platers get pulled over wouldn't it Either way back on topic
I just want to know whether the Vic police willl have a problem with my car and my dusty NSW green P's when I go there for a visit in August. The NSW police have pulled me over for random checks a few times as well as for speeding and did not say anything about the car.