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Cyber bullying leads to hospitalisation? Really??

Discussion in 'The Pub' started by kuzman89, Aug 31, 2012.

  1. 88GreenVN

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    There you go - I dont know this person at all, so it could all be an act to put on a police report. and maybe just for the $$$.
     
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    I haven't read this whole thread other than the first post - but there's got to be more to this story than what's being reported.
     
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    They don't have to partake in the site/forum where the bullying occurred. There are many forums out there that are heavily moderated on various subjects where those who cannot leave home can become a part of. They also have the ability to use MSN or Yahoo to chat with people they befriend on line.

    I appreciate people with depression and other mental health issues have cycles, I work with them also, where when they are medicated can feel good and able to cope but often will then stop the meds as they believe they don't need them anymore and slip downwards again making them vulnerable. Most understand this cycle but have trouble breaking it. If these people let the arrows wound them they also need help to be educated to avoid situations that stress them out, so again, don't get on twitter, facebook, forums or any other social media where they are attacked.

    Again, I am not condoning cyber bullying, I too have seen the effects with clients, and also the media stories about young people who commit suicide as a result of social media, but I feel those around them, be that family, friends or support workers need to encourage avoiding them and to log off it trouble starts and seek help if it hurts too much.
     
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    Just heard Brian Taylor (Collingwood fame) talking on Adelaide radio saying he has closed his twitter account because of all the venom spat at him. He confessed to being stunned at the rubbish people were saying.

    Now call BT a whimp - no way is BT a whimp - but the vial tweets got to him. He was shocked at how hateful some people are while at the keyboard - and un accountable for what is typed.
     
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    Yes he was shocked, but he also had the brains to close his account down.. Didn't see him going to hospital..

    Perfect example of what to do
     
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    And probably has no underlying mental health issues so can deal with the **** easy as. People that are under real stress just dont see it. Thats my point.

    I used to be one to bag this subject because I was not informed at all of what it's all about and have a very strong resolve most of the time. I'm not a quitter and can take a fair bit of flack. Some cant do this at all.

    I just feel we have a swear filter to protect our kids, we dont allow smut (well not too much anyway (jecs)), why cant we offer a little protection from the cyber bullies that cower behind their PC to smash peoples emotions to bits to make them selfs feel like a winner.

    Most bullies are infact victims themselfs and follow a similar path by passing on the hurt to others. This process repeats it self all the time.

    i'm no professor on this subject - far from it but I do now (at 48) have compassion for those less fortunate than me and suffer from mental health issues. It's not fake, it's often not fixabe with a tea spoon of cement, it can be pushed into the back ground and all will be OK.

    And turning the internet off yep - but often all too late. The damage is done.

    Cyber bullies - you suck dogs balls and should #### off to Mars for a communal gathering so you can blow your puny emmossions up each others arses. yeh that feels better.
     
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    She's obviously one of these types who does very little, but is told that what she does do is fabulous. Lavished with attention, contracts and popularity. And she's finally found out that the real world isnt as shallow as all her "friends"
     
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    i honestly found it really really funny... no one else?
     
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    We do if you read the rules. Member abuse is not allowed. I myself have handed out many infractions and warned people. Members do report abuse to the Team so it can be looked at and acted on.
     
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    The toaster comment made me giggle a little.
     
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    I don't understand why celebrities open these stupid accounts when most of the time they are crying for privacy, I understand they need social media to stay in the public arena but for christ sakes I'm so tired of hearing about these people that are just as human as you and me having to comment on everything (the Olympics was a classic example of athletes talking too much). Secondly, what is the fascination with society being so interested in what they say? I think some people need to get a life.

    Lastly to those that enjoy sitting behind a keyboard and abusing people like Charlotte, you really need to ask yourself is your life that dull that you need to resort to this kind of pathetic behavior to get your kicks?
     
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    it's all good having laws and penalties for trolling and cyber-bullying, but it's just about impossible to enforce them. behind a computer, you're pretty much invisible and anonymous unless you're a complete idiot and leave informations that can be used to identify you without a shadow of a doubt.

    I don't understand how twitter works myself and I'm not fussed on finding out either, despite being rather computer-savvy.

    I believe the internet brings out the best and the worst in people and it's because of the anonymity that comes with being a internet "citizen". there is no need to watch what you say and how you conduct yourself because nobody knows who you are. trolls and cyber bullies are the assholes of society that are too scared to be assholes in real life because in real life, they can't hide behind anonymity.
     
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    Yes I think the moderators have done a great job in weeding out the bullies via the rule book much to the displeasure of some JC members. In fact I think the site has improved out of site over the years with this issue.

    My point I think is that people need to see that if we protect kids from the "F" bomb on this forum, surely we need to take metal heath seriously also, (this is were the mods bad bullies regularly)

    I want to ramble on here but I think the thread has made it's point. Some people are weak and fail at life, take their own life and shatter the family around them. The pain is raw and lingers for ages. Others are strong and prevale over hard times and rule the roost - and rightly so.

    Some sit on the fence and .. well dont help at all.

    *Now going to shed to mix a little cement and have a slug of it LOL
     
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    If you look around on the net about this, she's not above doing a bit of bullying herself.

    From today's paper, Weekend Star.
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    I myself have a Twitter account. I think its great to share photos and keep in touch with mates and family in a concise way. Yeah i follow some celebrities, why not?
    In saying that, the main reason I use Twitter for is a bit of fun. But i have blocked and deleted my fair share of troll/spam users. It's not that hard to do.
    While I can sympathise with her to some extent, as my girlfriend suffers from depression, it's really so easy to turn the computer off, or delete your account.

    Honestly, if someone/multiple people were abusing you online over Twitter, facebook, whatever, would you continue logging on and reading through it all and getting upset over it?
    No, you'd delete that **** and not go back again. Or if you're that desperate, create a new account and only allow those people you know to access you via that site.
     
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    My legendary saying which ive been saying for years:

    No facebook/twitter/instagram/myspace/4square etc, no problems!

    Easy as that.

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    The media needs to read this:

    Meaning of "Trolling"


    Because cyber bullying and trolling are completley different. I troll all the time, I DON'T cyber bully people.

    Put it this way, pissing someone off and getting them frustrated in person is real life trolling, whereas threatening someone constantly, and punching someone in the face, is real life bullying.

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    QQ. UMADBRO? Take a spoon of concrete. U JELLI?

    Dude, you opened yourself up to a mass trolling, I'm suprised I even held back on that one lol.

    But yeah, there's an example of a few ways to troll someone. It isn't really anything now, but after 3 or 4 replys between both parties, it should get to the point where the victim rages, or in a game circumstance, rage quits.
     
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    She wasn't bullied either in my opinion. She laid crap on N.Z. and another expat told her to go hang herself, which is the equivalent of saying go F@@@ yourself. She retwittered it to her bully band as she always does, so they do her dirty work. If someone payed out on Au I imagine there'd be a quite a few people saying more that that.

    One of them had a fiance who necked himself who said "my fiance hanged himself HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT TO ANOTHER HUMAN BEING." Someone then tweeted "if I was your fiance I'd hang myself too #gohangyourself."

    So you see the offence wasn't taken by Charlotte, but by one of her "followers". After she stalked the Kiwi and called her and her boss at work and getting her suspended, which is bullying, she was then inundated with "go hang yourself" type comments.

    Very strange person to have as a figurehead of some anti-bullying effort. She even says "Hope this misery ends" and "You win x" as her last comments. Just the sort of message you want to send to real vulnerable people, don't you think? She should lose her job.

    Anyway, the lesson is, never tell someone to "play in the traffic" whilst on-line or someone who has had some friend run over will take offence. Remember offence can never be given, only taken.

    Charlotte Dawson Abuse Polarises Online Community | Stuff.co.nz
    The other side of the Charlotte Dawson Twitter abuse saga - Throng

    She's an attention whore out to sell her upcoming book, trivialising bullying for her own game. She could go play in the traffic for all I cared.
     
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    Um okay, your awesome dude.

    Trolling and bullying is the same thing, in the end it comes down to some sad SAD lowlife having a go at someone else for there own benefit to make themselves feel better, or to get a laugh.
    If you troll all the time, you are a looser and need a life! :)
     
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    So you like upsetting people - good on you cobber top stuff. Bet your the life of parties and the playground. What school do you go to?

    I have now blocked your posts because I feel you are an un worthy person to get any more of my time. (of which I often give freely to hundreds of JC users)
     
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