Just Commodores Forum Community

It takes just a moment to join our fantastic community

Register

Deep Pan & Wide Mouth V8 A6

Discussion in 'VE Holden Commodore (2006 - 2013)' started by PIR4TE, Sep 4, 2013.

  1. mike_nofx

    mike_nofx Active Member

    Messages:
    119
    Likes Received:
    38
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2007
    Members Ride:
    VE SS Sportswagon
    Any thoughts on if the Colorado one is the right part?
     
  2. monstar

    monstar Naturally as-pirated

    Messages:
    2,476
    Likes Received:
    1,659
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2016
    Location:
    depths of Hays Inlet
    Members Ride:
    Peugeot 207 GTi
    Yes, everything checks out.
     
    mike_nofx likes this.
  3. VS_Pete

    VS_Pete Donating Member

    Messages:
    4,457
    Likes Received:
    9,252
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2007
    Location:
    Brisbane
    Members Ride:
    VE II SV6 MY12 SPORTWAGON
    God how true:p
     
    monstar likes this.
  4. mike_nofx

    mike_nofx Active Member

    Messages:
    119
    Likes Received:
    38
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2007
    Members Ride:
    VE SS Sportswagon
    Finally went ahead and ordered the B&M trans pan. Will see how it goes!
     
    VS_Pete and monstar like this.
  5. mike_nofx

    mike_nofx Active Member

    Messages:
    119
    Likes Received:
    38
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2007
    Members Ride:
    VE SS Sportswagon
    Fitted up the B&M pan today, all went reasonably smoothly.

    Cost a total of $568.23, Thats:
    $384.95 For the B&M Pan
    $36.55 for the deeper wide mouth filter with rubber gasket
    $146.73 For 3 x 4L bottles of AC Delco Dexron VI from Holden

    The only very minor issues I had were that it was a little harder to pump the oil into the new pan because the fill hole is recessed. I just had to bend the metal fill tube on my Tom Thumb hand pump.
    The new pan, annoyingly, still had aluminium swarf left inside which i had to clean out, was trapped between the fins. I also disliked that you had to use thread tape on the drain plug and temp sender bung. But having a sump plug is worth it.

    Also, changing the little seal for the trans filter is difficult, i scratched the surface it mates to and had to carefully rub it smooth again with some fine emery.

    Removed around 4.2L of fluid from the original pan, and filled approx 7.75L with the new pan. A decent increase in capacity. Yes the pan sits lower, and is the lowest point under the car where it is located, so a high speed hump or similar would contact the pan before the chassis rails. For this reason I am considering making up something to prevent this from happening, will report back!

    Would post pics, but thanks to photobucket blocking links I'm unsure how to do this now.
     
    Asmodai78 and monstar like this.
  6. mike_nofx

    mike_nofx Active Member

    Messages:
    119
    Likes Received:
    38
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2007
    Members Ride:
    VE SS Sportswagon
    Unfortunately I am already having second thoughts. This thing seems to just sit way too low, I'm worried a decent hump in the road or a driveway is going to take it out. Think I may have to go the stock Camaro pan after all.

    At its lowest point its roughly 85mm from the ground, on a stock SS wagon, actually the rear end is slightly higher than stock.

    IMG_6371.JPG IMG_6372.JPG
     
  7. monstar

    monstar Naturally as-pirated

    Messages:
    2,476
    Likes Received:
    1,659
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2016
    Location:
    depths of Hays Inlet
    Members Ride:
    Peugeot 207 GTi
    The cast one with fins I was talking about was definitely not B&M rather PML part number 11087.
    It is just a bit deeper than the GM Camaro Pan:
    [​IMG]

    Seems B&M is about same depth as one pictured in the middle?
    [​IMG]
    The GM pan on the left above and middle below is actually what we call deep pan (Camaro)
    [​IMG]
    Stock SS pan vs Camaro:
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    You can see where the deep pan steps down for additional fluid capacity but does not go all the way back.
     
    mike_nofx likes this.
  8. mike_nofx

    mike_nofx Active Member

    Messages:
    119
    Likes Received:
    38
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2007
    Members Ride:
    VE SS Sportswagon
    Well I have a Camaro pan on the way. Actually... I have 3 on the way.

    I plan to sell off the other 2 pans (with filters and gaskets) to recoup some costs. I’ll sell them cheap, but enough to make it worthwhile for me. And certainly much cheaper than locally available options.

    I’ll also likely put the B&M up for sale too. I liked the idea of it, but I’m too paranoid, especially for the driving I do.
     
    monstar likes this.
  9. mike_nofx

    mike_nofx Active Member

    Messages:
    119
    Likes Received:
    38
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2007
    Members Ride:
    VE SS Sportswagon
    This is the B&M next to the stock SS Pan. the B&M has no taper at all

    IMG_6354.JPG
     
    monstar likes this.
  10. mike_nofx

    mike_nofx Active Member

    Messages:
    119
    Likes Received:
    38
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2007
    Members Ride:
    VE SS Sportswagon
    4C530EC8-8203-41F6-93E9-8824B01C192F.jpeg

    For those interested, standard VE SS pan on left, B&M in the middle, and Camaro on the right.

    If anyone is interested in a Camaro pan, plus wide mouth filter and gaskets feel free to contact me for a forum member discount.

    Also, I have a barely used, as new, B&M pan. Better suited to a car that doesn’t frequent speed humps though!
     
    Brendan PARRY and monstar like this.
  11. Brendan PARRY

    Brendan PARRY New Member

    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2017
    Location:
    Sydney
    Members Ride:
    VE S2 6.0 ltr SS
    My A6 is also flaring after engine and box tune. Ill give that a go.
     
    mike_nofx likes this.
  12. mike_nofx

    mike_nofx Active Member

    Messages:
    119
    Likes Received:
    38
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2007
    Members Ride:
    VE SS Sportswagon
    I have a few camaro pans, deep wide mouth filters, gaskets and new filler plugs. PM me for details!
     
  13. Gavkat09

    Gavkat09 Member

    Messages:
    45
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    8
    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2019
    Location:
    Narellan
    Members Ride:
    Vy sv8
    Can someone please confirm how much transmission fluid I’ll need to do the camaro pan and transmission cooler
     
    Last edited: Oct 10, 2019

Share This Page