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Discussion in 'VR - VS Holden Commodore (1993 - 1997)' started by losh1971, Jan 12, 2018.

  1. losh1971

    losh1971 Well-Known Member

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    If I install a deep pan at some point will I need a longer pick up as well? My thinking is no as the oil is still always going to be covering the pick up as long as I maintain the level on the original dip stick but I could be wrong? I like the idea of a drain hole that I can drop the fluid every 20k and then get a service done every 40k and use synthetic fluid like the trans tech used last time he did the service. I want to try and clear out as much DX3 as I can so that it is pretty much running just the syn gear but that will take a few dumps of the oil to get it there.
     
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    I can't see any reason why the original dipstick can't be used after all the full level point doesn't change, just the area under it has.

    I'm waiting on a TCI alloy deep pan to arrive for the missus L67 ATM but it seems to have been stuck at NZ customs for 7 days now :(
     
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    They come with spacer for the filter to solve that issue & yeah they're submerged.
     
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    You can also get deep pan filters for the 4L60e
     
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    Thanks gtrboyy and immortality
     
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    OK, that is an interesting comment.
    The deeper pan is to increase the transmission oil capacity and it still does because while the pickup is in the same position, the oil mixes in the pan.
    When I was putting the filter (with pickup) in I considered "what if it was mounted lower", but the inlet tube wants to go all the way in. Hanging it out lower seemed a bit loose to me. Putting a spacer on would not stop it being loose. I was concerned it would fall out into the deep pan.
    If there is an advantage to mounting the pickup lower, so it is submerged lower than standard, I would want a proper spacer to extend the tube and some legs to place under the filter so it doesn't fall lower.

    Is there an advantage in having a deep pan and mounting the filter lower?

    Mine is just fitted in the normal position. Nothing else different between the VS and VT&VX the pan just gives more space under the filter and it isn't that much space.

    Compare VS to VT&VX, probably 1.2cm
     
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    I was hoping i could leave everything as is but just fit the new pan. I mainly want the deeper pan for the drain plug. So i can drop the oil myself and then get it properly serviced as needed.
     
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    Possibly the fluid near the bottom of the pan would be marginally cooler. Lower also reduces chance of sucking air during fluid surge under heavy braking or acceleration.
     
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    Yeah, transmission guy , when he rebuilt mine put a deep pan on , I didn't ask wether he changed anything else, I'll have to when it gets its first service ,although that will be quite a while ( at least 3 or 4 months and that's if maloo decides to be reliable this year). I interpreted that he put a deeper pan on to increase trans fluid capacity to help fluids and auto to run cooler
     
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    Helps with flaring aswell I`m told.
     
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    I went to put a shallow pan filter on my Vs s3 trans. Only figured out it was a deep pan version after I had it apart. Seems the valve body sits lower, so no chance the shallow filter was going to work.
     
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    Ive run by vx pans on earlier model 4l60s before but ive always used a late model filter n stick doing it.
     
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    Fairly much all the later model stuff got the deep pan from the factory it seems. The aftermarket deep pans hold more fluid again and have the added bonus of a sump plug and if you get an alloy type pan better cooling too I'm told. I'm going to paint my new pan black.
     
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    Everything full circle is deep pan never seen a shallow on one.
     
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    Later model deep pan sounds like a good cheap idea if they have drain plug altough not that hard to get welded in.

    Pretty sure can get aftermarket shallow pans with drain plug cheap...alloy deep pan way overkill for a stock v6 with decent transcooler
     
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    Factory deep pan still has no bung. Still need to solder a receiving fitting in to thin to tap as no thck caet boss for a drain plug lol.

    Just don't be a tard and solder it to the front like the guys who first built my senator tranny did.
     
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    I welded one into my last one. Tig is the way to go. I wouldn’t bother again though

    Can’t really weld it to the rear of the pan (factory deep pan have a step at the rear). Side would work though
     

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