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Direct Injection VE Series 2 or VF?

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Whats everyones thought? Mooney said released by 2008 hopefully... so will we see it in the VE Series 2 or will it wait til the VF?

Mooney said a 10% decrease in fuel economy so the VE II or VF should be around the 9.9L per 100km... And 12% power increase means 200kw and 220kw or there abouts V6's very soon?

Its more noisey but what other cons are there to direct injection?
 

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1991_Vn2nV said:
And 12% power increase means 200kw and 220kw or there abouts V6's very soon?
Seriously... Why are so many people hooked on more power? Torque is where you should be focusing. The VT Series 1 V8s only had 185kw of power! Seriously, what do you NEED all that power for? Holden should build a turbo diesel engine with swags of torque sooner rather than later... THAT's where the REAL interest lies.

1991_Vn2nV said:
Its more noisey but what other cons are there to direct injection?
Noise can be overcome. Fuel lines are under higher pressure... That could be a con. Only time will tell if Holden can REALLY pull of direct injection. IMHO they still haven't come close to perfecting the Alloytec V6 (and it's exhaust system).
 

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Scotty_Doesn't_Know said:
Seriously... Why are so many people hooked on more power? Torque is where you should be focusing. The VT Series 1 V8s only had 185kw of power! Seriously, what do you NEED all that power for? Holden should build a turbo diesel engine with swags of torque sooner rather than later... THAT's where the REAL interest lies.
179kw :p I wasnt necessarily stating thats what I want, but just stating what the power increase of direct injection is.

Would the direct injection be in every model or not? As extra costs are involved obviously...
 

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1991_Vn2nV said:
Would the direct injection be in every model or not?
I can't see why not. Otherwise it would be like leaving the Ecotec in the VZ as well as having more expensive Alloytec engines. It's all or nothing I'd say.
 

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1991_Vn2nV said:
Fair enough. Wheels said it wouldonly add $220 to the COST of each engine, but they would have to re-coupe the costs of design etc. as well
Yup and since when has a new model (even just a Series II) not had a slight price increase?
 

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There's no reason they couldn't reserve direct injection for the higher spec Alloytech engines so it was only for SV6, Calais, Statesman etc...they already have different drivetrains so it wouldn't be any real hassle. They could then use it as a selling point for the up-spec cars, and later upgrade the base models in the following model as an "improvement."
 

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Scotty_Doesn't_Know said:
Seriously... Why are so many people hooked on more power? Torque is where you should be focusing. The VT Series 1 V8s only had 185kw of power! Seriously, what do you NEED all that power for? Holden should build a turbo diesel engine with swags of torque sooner rather than later... THAT's where the REAL interest lies.


Yeah, they should be designing engines with more torque not kilowatts. Torque is what makes a car easy to drive without revving the ring out of it. It also increases fuel economy.
 
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